Let's talk about Hunts - a detailed rundown of their assumed mechanics

[CableMonkey]

O.o;;;; I have never heard of this either lol..... how long was he up? I've seen alectryon sittin in the same spot for 8+ hours

Since almost nobody is doing A ranks on our server, I have no clue how long he was there. I heard of this happening with either Mirka or Lyuba with another group in 3.1.

[CableMonkey]

Ariyala updated her timers to the following.. At least they are much more accurate than before.

Rank S               Maint    Normal
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Croque-mitaine       38-47    65-82
Croakadile           25-30    69-70
Garlok               21-29    40-48
Bonnacon             38-46    65-77
Nandi                28-32    44-55
Mahisha              38-43    65-73
Laideronnette        25-29    43-48
Wulgaru              39-49    66-78
Mindflayer           25-30    69-70
Thousand-cast Theda  35-45    58-80
Zona Seeker          35-45    58-75
Brontes              39-47    64-82
Lampalagua           39-47    66-79
Nunyunuwi            26-34    44-54
Minhocao             34-42    58-66
Agrippa              36-60    60-84
Safat                36-51    60-84
Kaiser Behemoth      51-100   85-144
Gandarewa            55-100   92-144
Senmurv              55-100   92-144
The Pale Rider       51-100   85-126
Leucrotta            55-100   92-144
Bird of Paradise     51-100   85-144

[MiunaOshino]

So, Ariyala just updated their respawn timers. Here are the new ones with their difference to timers we can find in this thread :
http://puu.sh/ntqlp/3384755ac1.png (see my post in the previous page of this thread for more info)

Again, don't follow the difference on that for 3.0 S ranks, timers I've put aren't accurate.
I believe they put their timers based on report statistics, so Ariyala should be even more accurate than this thread now.

[Leknaat]

Ariyala seems to be mostly using timers that match up to alot of my data XD I'll make sure to nag them with any new data since I'm on hyperion too unfortuantely my playtimes dont' always coincide with theirs,

[Vandesaan]

We finally have someone with enough data to make HW S rank timers? Great! So how's that spawn method going for Leucrotta? I still find the massive killing of mobs completely implausible as a spawning method. All S rank triggers are based off of things that would happen naturally in a zone; the mass murdering of all those dragons in Delta isn't something that would naturally happen. I don't like doing massive rewrites using incomplete data, so what do we have?

[Leknaat]

We finally have someone with enough data to make HW S rank timers? Great! So how's that spawn method going for Leucrotta? I still find the massive killing of mobs completely implausible as a spawning method. All S rank triggers are based off of things that would happen naturally in a zone; the mass murdering of all those dragons in Delta isn't something that would naturally happen. I don't like doing massive rewrites using incomplete data, so what do we have?

It naturally happens it just normally takes 240+ hours on an active server where people do daily hunt marks (all 3 are possible hunt marks) e_e;;;; Near the start we were only seeing Leucrotta an average of once every 240-280 hours. It's kinda like when a sever that doesn't do fates in s than except with the purpose of triggering Nuny (until recently we were lucky to see Nuny more than once every 6 months). I mean I do hunt marks maybe once a month and never the azys lla ones

It could just be a zone wide average of 150 mobs but I hate popping leu enough already that I don't ever devieate from my 50 chimera/50 vouivre/50 hydra anymore.

I always wait at least 122 (80ish after a maint) hours after the last death then go on a murderspree. If it dosn't pop by the 151st mob it's not unlocked yet. If it takes less then it's been open for a bit. Wait like 5-10 hours and rinse and repeat if it doesn't pop e_e;;; Under the best case it popped after 25 hydra and 25 vouivre so it had proably been open for some hours (maybe up to a day) If no one on the server even farms chimera hides... it slows it down too. There's always someone farming manes on my server so I can usually safely ignore doing 50 of those guys and concentrate on the vouivre and hydras. Usually it takes less than 50 each. Only like once or twice has it taken me killing all 151 mobs.

The process of popping Leu works best with 3 people, one on each set of mobs or at least 2 people each on hydra / vouivre (ignoring chimera till those have hit 50). Doing it solo makes me /wrist as I swap between the 2 mobs when I'm doing it solo (Thank god they're next to each other)

My sever has a decent track record of popping leucrotta I've seen like 1 ~100ish hour leucrotta. He's just a pita like Nuny. Our leucrottas havn't taken more than 140ish hours to pop since starting the 50 mobsx3 system (which is still more often than we see Nuny XD)

TBH SE failed hard at 3.0 S ranks making their pop range a multi-day affair.

[Vandesaan]

Oh, so you're saying it's not within one hour? It's a steadily increasing counter?

[Leknaat]

Oh, so you're saying it's not within one hour? It's a steadily increasing counter?

As far as I have seen the counter starts when he opens not before. There was one time I went on a murdepage and he didn't pop at like 130 hours about 2 hours later he popped presumably when he hit the proper kill count. I never go past 151 mobs so he probably opened a few mins into my rampage so we were just short a few kills.

Most Leucrotta pops on my sever only need some amount of hydras and vouivres 25-45 or so usually not the full 50 so it seems to be a global counter that starts accruing when he opens. He's almost always consistently popped when we try at between 122-130 hours with less than the full 150 mobs

[Kanjishin]

Oh, so you're saying it's not within one hour? It's a steadily increasing counter?

It might sound crazy, but mechanically I'm getting the feeling 3.0 S ranks operate like zone leves. Once the objective is complete the S rank pops

[Leknaat]

It might sound crazy, but mechanically I'm getting the feeling 3.0 S ranks operate like zone leves. Once the objective is complete the S rank pops

You mean 100% chance of pop as long as the S rank is actually open (some hidden server start timer) and the conditions are fulfilled? <- if so then yeah... that's the feeling I've been getting.

Do the 2 new nodes seem to affect Gandy or still too early to tell?