Thordan's Reign and Containment Bay S1T7 (Extreme)

[silentwindfr]

Why are you playing this game then?

Do you realize how many fights in this game have one shot mechanics?

I mean seriously dude, even the new DUNGEON has a one shot mechanic.

personally i prefer fight like midas 4 and it have barely any one shoot mechanic. even the tank buster or the double laser are not a true one shoot mechanic, a one shoot mechanic will destroy the whole raid. and is not because we don't like the overuse of this mechanic that we don't have the right to love the game. like the time where they have place enrage on every fight.

but i want to say one thing, we must'nt forget that the dev team haven't get new employee for age... and sooner or later they will run in circle or do mistake.

[Slappah]

personally i prefer fight like midas 4 and it have barely any one shoot mechanic. even the tank buster or the double laser are not a true one shoot mechanic, a one shoot mechanic will destroy the whole raid. and is not because we don't like the overuse of this mechanic that we don't have the right to love the game. like the time where they have place enrage on every fight.

but i want to say one thing, we must'nt forget that the dev team haven't get new employee for age... and sooner or later they will run in circle or do mistake.

One shot mechanic isn't killing the whole raid

A one shot mechanic is anything that will one shot someone if done wrong

[mirta000]

Which is pretty sad if that's the case. If I wanted to play a game where the slightest misstep meant "you lose, do it over again", I'd go play IWBTG.

what is fun then? Roflstomp mode where you ignore the mechanics? Those are called Hard and Normal actually. Go and do those instead.

[silentwindfr]

hmmm maybe, i will conceide it, even if the fact that they overuse this mechanic is not new, it was pointed a lot before. but like said, they aren't that many that work on this and get a new exciting raid ready every 3-6 month is something quite amazing.

what is fun then? Roflstomp mode where you ignore the mechanics? Those are called Hard and Normal actually. Go and do those instead.

personally like i have said, i had a blast with midas 4 fight. it was really interesting and thrilling to do it.

[Evangela]

These fights suck. DPS race fights are the best.

[Atmora]

Am I correct in understand these fights are like T9 (maze of instant death attacks)? If so, that's troubling. Very very troubling.

If we had more fights with the quality of T9 this would be a much better game. Not calling it bad, that just happens to be one of if not the best made fight in the game.

[Evilkitten]

I love Thordan ex and have found once you gasped up to and after meteors it's fairly simple concept. I found it the same with T9, once you get pass the meteors it gets a little easier, in my opinion anyways.

I haven't tried Sephiro Ex yet but if it's anything like the other too I am really excited as love how those fights have be panned out ^^

[DarkmoonVael]

OP do what everyone else does, and learn the fight. There is no point putting a fight into the game at end game raid level that doesnt require the members of the team to learn the fight. Once you learn the fight, the mechanics are not much of a threat.

[SpookyGhost]

Whorleater (Hard) was never ever "hard" to begin with, so I don't know why you use that as a defense.

Which is less a problem with Extreme meaning Extreme, and more a problem with Hard not meaning Hard. If you look back at the original trio of HMs, they were significantly more punishing at the standard ilvl at the time. From Levi on, "HM"s were put in the MSQ and made easy enough that anyone could pass them in 1-3 attempts. The problem is that the development team didn't want to create 3 seperate fights (NM -> HM -> EX like in 2.0) so they just got rid of HM and renamed NM.

Extremes are midcore content. Seph EX was created by the guy responsible for Titan EX, so if we follow this train of thought then memorizing the pattern (as you did with Titan EX) will result in you not getting 1-shot (which is the case, and is technically the case for every other fight to varying levels). Learn when to do what and you'll have an easy time - if you have memorization problems, get on teamspeak/mumble/etc with the people you're running with and have someone call out mechanics.

[ColorOfSakura]

First of all, "One Shot" is not the same thing as "Insta Wipe".

Secondly, there's nothing wrong with the EXTREME fights being unforgiving in terms of mechanics. That's the entire point. I would much rather see a ton of mechanics that I have to figure out than having to push DPS like crazy. There's a reason why Gordias Savage as a raid tier was generally disliked and why Midas Savage seems to be having the exact opposite reactions from the hardcore portion of the playerbase.