Wasn't new Savage supposed to be easier than first?

[Velhart]

Quoting Yoshi P he said the first Savage was too hard which had grave consequeinces like people forced to switch servers because they couldn't find a group to clear it on their server. And we see now the same thing happening again.

Most midcore groups are tackling Sephirot EX and getting weekly items, and some still unlocking content. Where are these people who are quitting over raid content that just came out?

[mirta000]

Quoting Yoshi P he said the first Savage was too hard which had grave consequeinces like people forced to switch servers because they couldn't find a group to clear it on their server. And we see now the same thing happening again.

is it? Because I haven't heard of it.
Also he said "less DPS checks", not "less hard".
They also said that they'll introduce cross server raiding to fix the problem.

[Lethallin]

I really don't have a problem with things being hard. Gives you something to aim for.

I don't want to be able to do everything the first few days of an update. If it bothers you so much, then don't participate in it. Some people want it.

[Jetstream_Fox]

I wonder how people say with a straight face that Savage content should be easier than it is currently. Most of us don't even know whats going on in there and basing it off world first groups, people who excel at taking content down quick, and having that represent the rest of the players. You can only get real data off groups that don't go to these over the top lengths.

Never stated it should be easier, just the fact that SE claimed that it would fall between the difficulty of SCoB and FCoB. My group never was a world first group at any point in time nor a server first group at any raid. I believe on my server that we only have one server first group and as of last night they haven't cleared A5S where as they cleared A1S the next day upon release.

[Ashkendor]

Quoting Yoshi P he said the first Savage was too hard which had grave consequeinces like people forced to switch servers because they couldn't find a group to clear it on their server. And we see now the same thing happening again.

Where are these mythical droves of raiders that are unable to find groups so they're switching servers? Cause I mean, this seems like it'd be a pretty asinine time to go server hopping seeing as how quite a few people came back to the game for this patch. Oh right, they're actually just still unlocking content, farming Normal for weekly drops, and learning Sephirot EX. I'm sure some groups are actually in the recruiting stage as well, now that people are back from breaks and such.

[FoxyAreku]

The focus is on mechanics, not dps checks. Different type of difficulty.

Instead of Savage the difficulty should be called "Self-torture mode" cause I don't know how anyone can actually enjoy doing that shit

People like to challenge themselves.

Do you not understand why people like Dark Souls or Bloodborne either?

Also raiding is a social experience. It's something to do with friends. Don't see what is hard to understand about that.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Where are these mythical droves of raiders that are unable to find groups so they're switching servers? Cause I mean, this seems like it'd be a pretty asinine time to go server hopping seeing as how quite a few people came back to the game for this patch. Oh right, they're actually just still unlocking content, farming Normal for weekly drops, and learning Sephirot EX. I'm sure some groups are actually in the recruiting stage as well, now that people are back from breaks and such.

Jenova had a few raid groups break up because of A3S that and the fact Jenova has a very tense line drawn between the raiding community and the nonraiding community. A majority of the raiders here don't want to help people learn and when they can't clear or need a sub they get rather vocal and cause fights.

[Ashkendor]

Jenova had a few raid groups break up because of A3S that and the fact Jenova has a very tense line drawn between the raiding community and the nonraiding community. A majority of the raiders here don't want to help people learn and when they can't clear or need a sub they get rather vocal and cause fights.

That was Gordias. I'm well aware of the problems with Gordias, but OP is insinuating that it's still a problem with Midas.

I don't think enough time has passed to actually determine whether or not it is.

[Jetstream_Fox]

That was Gordias. I'm well aware of the problems with Gordias, but OP is insinuating that it's still a problem with Midas.

I don't think enough time has passed to actually determine whether or not it is.

I'll give you that it's still very early, yes. But honestly from someone who really doesn't shoot for server/world first clears A5S feels like they didn't attempt to curve the problem they had with Gordias. But only mask it with lesser DPS checks and higher mechanic based fights.

[axemtitanium]

ITT: "my definition of fun is correct and no one else's can possibly be correct"