Zu Horn pictures?

[Cherie]

really not the point tho... if its a mount only obtainable from voyages means normal guildies wont even have a chance of ever seein 1 unless pay insane amounts of gil.. while the officers get them for free lol

From what I understand of airships, they will be insanely expensive for a while...but after a while, people won't buy them as much, and they will be about as common as the ex primal ponies if not more so. Then people will see like everyone has it and be even less willing to shell out a ton of money for one and the price will plummet to nearly nothing. At least, this is what I saw happen a couple times with other airship-only venture materials that I buy for crafts I sell.

Then like 2 patches from now there will be a new mount released with same currency and price explodes again? :P

[Spawnie]

From what I understand of airships, they will be insanely expensive for a while...

really not fair tho honestly people in Fc's put in just as much work building airship parts as officers/leaders yet only leaders/officers are gonna benefit from even gettin or selling this mount, while normal members have to pay an insane amount of gil to get it or wait months til price goes down while the fc bosses are raking in the gil selling these mounts?? seriously worst idea ever implemented in ff14 lol if they were even considering somethin like this should of made it possible personal houses of all sizes had the option of sending ships on voyages..

not a fan of only bosses in fc's have the chance of recieving a mount considering how many times they ask/expect gil, item donations from members.. heck my last fc i was in wouldnt even let us have the stuff we planted in the gardens... yeah we brought/found seeds planted, watered them once ready for havest the officers harvested n sold on mb lol thats the reason i brought my own house to avoid stuff like that happening lol

some1 is sellin 1 on leviathon for 85m.. so while normal members put in the same amount of effort as the leaders we wont even see that item or that amount of gil from selling 1 :P

http://imgur.com/BCvvBoS

[Slappah]

Maybe join an fc that isn't completely screwing you then?

What you're describing is a personal issue, not an issue with the design of this mount.

[Spawnie]

Maybe join an fc that isn't completely screwing you then?

What you're describing is a personal issue, not an issue with the design of this mount.

its an issue with availability of this mount which only a select few will have the benefit of receiving or selling ._.

[ChocoFeru]

its an issue with availability of this mount which only a select few will have the benefit of receiving or selling ._.

I, as a master of my own FC, if it ever drops I'll try to sell it, then if it doesn't, I'll buy it from my own FC and leave the money on the FC chest for furnishing or whatever my members needs.

I usually sell whatever the airship gives to members at 40% it's original price, so if it's 100k on MB, I sell them at 40k.

You just need a honest FC! If you feel that your officers/master are scamming you, then leave. Remember they're making airship travels thanks to your FC points. You bring them the Airship's fuel!

[Legion88]

its an issue with availability of this mount which only a select few will have the benefit of receiving or selling ._.

I don't know how it is in your FC but in mine all voyage items belongs to the FC and not to a specific player.

For the mount i have to make a special rule if we obtain them from the voyage, like it goes down the ranks. Any excess will be sold and refinance our FC.

[Spawnie]

You just need a honest FC! If you feel that your officers/master are scamming you, then leave. Remember they're making airship travels thanks to your FC points. You bring them the Airship's fuel!

what im tryin to say if making the only available means to obtain a mount through voyages where guild leaders have free range over items n get the mount for free while the members have really no other choice but to pay insane amounts of gil for is just silly...

even if you have an honest FC where the guild leader will go down the list giving mount to people in a particular order how is that fair on the people in FC's with over 200 people when an active guild can easily have over 80 people all contributing around the same on a daily basis? its just ._.''' and doesnt even seem like they gave to much thought to it imo,

as you said voyages are fueled by the members of the FC's and lets be honest only a small percentage will ever even be able to own the mount with how its only available through 2 possible ways, unless your insanely rich or a boss in your FC

[Itseotle]

its an issue with availability of this mount which only a select few will have the benefit of receiving or selling ._.

What?! Content locked behind housing availability?!?! SE would NEVER do that. Period.

[LionFranco]

Spawnie, you assume that guild leaders will not try and distribute the tokens fairly. If you distrust your leadership so much, it doesn't look like a healthy FC to be in.

My FC will make sure the items are distributed between members, probably by a drawing. Because that's the right thing to do. Now of course I don't thin we will let people that have only joined in the last month or so get the item, as that wouldn't be fair to long term members, but you seem to act like all FC's are going to horde them for their elites or favorites, and that's just the sign of a bad FC.

[Noxifer]

I agree with several others, Spawnie -- just because some FCs have very strict hierarchies and opinions on how the 'officers' are worth more than the rest, it doesn't mean all of them do. If I was involved in a larger FC, and a ship brought back one of those, it would most likely first go to one of those who'd spent the most money/time on building the ships (gathering/buying the materials, crafting the items, making sure to keep track of when the ships come back so they can be online then to receive them and lose as little time as possible).
Our FC is a smaller one, so among our primary members (i.e. not inactive or alts) who got the first mount would probably be decided by some kind of lottery or competition. Either using /random to decide who gets the first, or through a game, like HUD-less hide-and-seek in the Goblet (where we live), chocobo racing (none of us has been particularly interested in that, so we don't have any super jockeys in the FC) or some other kind of game of chance/fun. I was one of the founding members, but I'd have just as big a chance to get one as the others. Same with our FC leader. And of course a winner wouldn't be able to get another one until everyone in the FC had one.

There are benefits and drawbacks of being in an FC of a certain size. With a big FC, you're almost guaranteed there'll always be people online so you have the chance to do something, and the FC will have plenty of resources due to its many contributing members. With a small FC, you have the closer community and friendship, and a larger possibility to influence the running of said FC. Personally, I've always preferred the latter to the former.