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    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    So it looks like STR tanks are not necessarily going away
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    Stop kidding yourself, strength tanks ARE going away, I'm not sure why the tanks are complaining, you are getting WAY more HP and a very small DPS lost.

    It is a win win for everyone.
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  3. #283
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalasnikov View Post
    Congratulations. You guys turned a simple farewell thread into bad healer meeting :/
    I agree, we were having fun and the Debbie Brigade came in and made this a debate with their unasked for opinions and snarky one liners. #forums
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  4. #284
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    Quote Originally Posted by FudoMyoo View Post
    Stop kidding yourself, strength tanks ARE going away, I'm not sure why the tanks are complaining, you are getting WAY more HP and a very small DPS lost.

    It is a win win for everyone.
    Hmm at 0.45 / 0.45, all secondary stats are (slightly more than) 2x as important as before. So when you can have 50 CRIT, when that would theoretically work out to 7 str before, it is now equal to 14. So if you can choose to have CRIT/DET over Parry, then you should go that route for more DPS. You should only apply as much VIT as necessary to survive tank busters and following damage - as before.
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    they will tweak it until str tanks are dead.... please look forward to it! So why not get over it and move on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    From having 1000~1100 AP to ~850. I think numbers went down. I did not want the HP before, I do not want it now. Sure, they most likely worked the new content around the new bloated HP, but they could have very well done it around the expected HP with pre 3.2 numbers.
    Yeah, hurt to see my sheet on lodestone today too, good news though! with the minimal difference in AP scaling, I'll never have to take any Parry on my rightside, #CritTank4Ever
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    This makes me a sad panda
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    I did the new dungeons with like 27k hp. The healers didn't even dps and I barely lost any hp. I'm not saying or blaming it on healers, but I often see people playing healers, refused to dps when there is nothing to heal. Yes, I'm aware you play healer class and not dps. But think when everyone, dps, tanks and healers do a lot of dps, those dungeons will last for only 15 min instead of 30. I rather run something quick than doing it slow, but that's probabaly me .

    Edit: I see people say; if you want to do big numbers, you might as well play dps. First of all, when you have a lot of dps from every class in a raid or a dungeon, the faster you kill a boss, the less mechanics/heals/cd's are needed to be used. Or you can take extra 20 min on the same boss with low dps and run out of mana. Your choice .
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    Quote Originally Posted by FudoMyoo View Post
    they will tweak it until str tanks are dead.... please look forward to it! So why not get over it and move on?
    People who play to the meta don't play based off of "what if" or "someday"; they play based off current conditions.

    In a game such as FFXIV where gear is so transient, it's the best way to go if you think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Hmm at 0.45 / 0.45, all secondary stats are (slightly more than) 2x as important as before. So when you can have 50 CRIT, when that would theoretically work out to 7 str before, it is now equal to 14. So if you can choose to have CRIT/DET over Parry, then you should go that route for more DPS. You should only apply as much VIT as necessary to survive tank busters and following damage - as before.
    That's the right answer. They should have made it 0.35 / 0.55 or something, but we'll work with what we've got.

    On the plus side, there's an i240 Fending accessory without parry for every slot (including both rings), so as long as you're raiding you're set.
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