Dear Square-Enix: You Forgot About Buffs to Dark Knight's Off-Tank Utility.

[Syzygian]

I'll give you a great reason why they didn't make that horrific change.

Monk puts up blunt res down. DRK is doing his combo, puts up slash res down. The int debuff cannot stack, would be too strong, so the result is dragon kick is erased, mnk damage lowered. Then monk uses it again, delirium erased, drk damage lowered.

Starting to see the problem?

You misread their post completely.

They're saying make Dragon Kick two separate debuffs, one the blunt resist down, and the other the INT down. Similar to how Vengeance puts up the counterattack buff and the vulnerability down buff separately. There've been vulnerability up debuffs in the game that have been able to cancel the latter half of that buff, but not the former.

That way the DRK could overwrite the INT part of DK but not the Blunt resist part. Not really all that important or even really a buff, but uhh. Yeah.

While we're at it, Dark Knights in the single player games have always been "tanks" with high HP, access to the most powerful defensive equipment, access to generally powerful melee weapons, and access to shields. Honestly, FFIX if anything was a disservice to the image of the Job.

Please for the love of Christ and Satan combined don't turn this thread into that topic.

[MagiusNecros]

While we're at it, Dark Knights in the single player games have always been "tanks" with high HP, access to the most powerful defensive equipment, access to generally powerful melee weapons, and access to shields. Honestly, FFIX if anything was a disservice to the image of the Job.

Very true considering the Dark Knight class wasn't even in IX to begin with.

[Tanathya]

To be fair:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/W...Final_Fantasy)

What's that supposed to even mean?

While we're at it, Dark Knights in the single player games have always been "tanks" with high HP, access to the most powerful defensive equipment, access to generally powerful melee weapons, and access to shields. Honestly, FFIX if anything was a disservice to the image of the Job.

Lol, not this again. Let's ignore this post completely.

[SpookyGhost]

What's that supposed to even mean?

Warriors, also, were powerhouses. They had high strength and high defense/health. So DRK being the de facto (I assume you mean default rather than the literal translation of de facto, unless you just made a grammatical error) OT doesn't really check out when Warrior, also, exists. If you meant that DRK should be a competitive OT, then I agree, and I think that all 3 should offer individual special things as OT and as MT. Hopefully one day they sort that out.

[MagiusNecros]

What's that supposed to even mean?

Not much. Just trying to correlate FF1 Fighter to the FF14 Warrior. Which fails since Warrior can only equip Axes and is more a mesh of Fighter + Viking + Berserker.

Doesn't help the FF1 Fighter promotes into Knight aka the Paladin.

[Tanathya]

Warriors, also, were powerhouses. They had high strength and high defense/health. So DRK being the de facto (I assume you mean default rather than the literal translation of de facto, unless you just made a grammatical error) OT doesn't really check out when Warrior, also, exists. If you meant that DRK should be a competitive OT, then I agree, and I think that all 3 should offer individual special things as OT and as MT. Hopefully one day they sort that out.

Not gonna start this argument again, even though I could very well comment on the very same link you've replied with, so I'll pass.

Doesn't help the FF1 Fighter promotes into Knight aka the Paladin.

Ok, that's what I meant. You posted it.

[SpookyGhost]

Not much. Just trying to correlate FF1 Fighter to the FF14 Warrior. Which fails since Warrior can only equip Axes and is more a mesh of Fighter + Viking + Berserker.

I mean DRK traditionally gives up health to boost offense which isn't present in FF14. Maybe relating the jobs in XIV to the past jobs in traditional FF games is a bad idea, they do tend to stray far away from being an actual FF game to begin with.

Not gonna start this argument again, even though I could very well comment on the very same link you've replied with, so I'll pass.

You gotta relax, friend.

Anyway, I'm done derailing. WTB OT utility for DRK. ( ' - ' )b

[Tanathya]

I mean DRK traditionally gives up health to boost offense which isn't present in FF14. Maybe relating the jobs in XIV to the past jobs in traditional FF games is a bad idea, they do tend to stray far away from being an actual FF game to begin with.


You gotta relax, friend.

Anyway, I'm done derailing. WTB OT utility for DRK. ( ' - ' )b

Speechless. Oh, well.

[Galdous]

I honestly don't see what the big issue is. Paladin and dark Knight gear is changeable minus weapon. Not like you can't just play both pal and drk.

[FallenWings]

Came into thread about OT. Came up with text fence about OT. Actually read the thread. Well shitake mushrooms I just typed unrelated and incoherent nonsense.

I'll just make myself useful and say:

I honestly don't see what the big issue is. Paladin and dark Knight gear is changeable minus weapon. Not like you can't just play both pal and drk.

Why does the DRK and PLD have to be the ones to switch? Why is the WAR exempt from this? What if I only want to play PLD or DRK? Is it fair that PLD and DRK players need to be interchangeable to raid whereas WAR does not?