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  1. #271
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    Colorful's Avatar
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
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    Been playing for well over a year now and I've seen console and PC drama outside of these forums, you're really making the issue seem larger than it is. If you're encountering these kind of people, you're either actively pursuing them and pushing them into these conversations or just really lucky if they're as prevalent as you claim.
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  2. #272
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    Princess Andrea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
    It's win-win for the majority.
    Win win you say..?

    What happens when people complain that queues take even longer than they do currently?

    What happens when one version clearly becomes SE favoured version? (in your minecraft example this is PC)

    What happens if they do this and PS3/PS4/PC simply don't have enough people that playing on their version is pointless?

    It works with Minecraft because you don't rely on others for progression.

    Your idea to be blunt is awful and is as far away from a win-win situation as you can get.
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  3. #273
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    Defias Traicere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
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    Queues would slow down that is true.
    But spread across 3 consoles it wouldn't be that bad.
    Now of course my idea relies on their being multiple consoles. That said there are plenty of ps4/ps3 players so it wouldn't too deep into us.

    I stand by my idea.

    @Colorful
    And I do not go looking for trouble. I prefer to keep to myself honestly.
    However as this is an MMO stuff happens...
    Example:
    When my friend and I (both PS4) tried to run LoA we were kicked for not being on PC. (They demanded us to get on Mumble. Which is difficult on a ps4, as our PCS are in different rooms.)
    I've also been ostracized numerous times because pc players don't trust consoles.
    When we tried to get him a T5 clear (It's for a Trophy), same situation, he recently was asked if he needed to run some raids as his guildmates wanted the 1st timer bonus for their relics. They discovered he was on console and couldn't voice chat with them so they withdraw their offer, and informed him that he should invest in a PC before attempting anything beyond dungeons.

    In my case...
    Trying to clear EX Primals for example.
    I had a pc player and his buddies lecture me that I need a pc so I can get a perfect connection, communicate (keyboard isn'the good enough it seems), and experience the "real" game, then boot me before we even made 1 attempt.
    (Before you ask he knew I was on console because I could not join their teamspeak.)
    Sadly this happens a lot with EX Primals I eventually stopped attempting that aspect of the game.

    I admit I have become very jaded towards pc players. But I don't mistreat them, nor am I rude to them.
    You are probably right in that I'm one of the lucky few who bumps into Toxic players.
    I've seen the worst of this community and while I try to be upstanding I'm worn down now.

    I just do my own thing and try to not lose my temper when I hear/see console limitations get thrown around.

    I'm at the point where I feel the saying: "If you can't play nice with each other then don't play with each other at all." Feels valid.
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    Last edited by Defias; 02-21-2016 at 12:53 AM.

  4. #274
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
    With the PC/Mac Version having the top notch graphics, add-ons, features that PC players are begging for.

    Console Version
    An rebuilt version fully optimized for the select console, allowing smoother UI, textures, mapping, loading, and etc all for the console it is on.
    IE: FFXIV (PS4 version, X-Box One Version, Nintendo NX Version, etc.)
    This way each console can run the game to its strengths & unique features.
    Sorry, but if PS4 version (which is currently just the PC version without DX11) get put together with PS3 version, then PC version should get put together wih a Tablet version

    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
    When my friend and I (both PS4) tried to run LoA we were kicked for not being on PC. (They demanded us to get on Mumble. Which is difficult on a ps4, as our PCS are in different rooms.)
    1. You got kicked because you didn't entered mumble, not because you played on PS4 (don't exist an smartphone app for that?)
    2. You don't really need an voice programm for Crystal Tower. Strategy are fast writen down in the chat. So you got kicked because the others were bad players, not because of PS4
    3. PC players can't see if anyone play on a console anyway
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-21-2016 at 01:36 AM.

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  6. #275
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    YGSLlew's Avatar
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    Val'faria Rhiki
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mwynn View Post
    The PS4 has enough RAM and CPU Power to handle High Poly Models and High-Res Textures. Yet the fact is, both the PC and the PS4 have troubles once an Area is overpopulated. (You cannot tell me you can keep 60 FPS in Idleshyre or Mor Dhona)
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    You're wrong on this one. 60 FPS in those areas is relatively easy for "above average" computers like mine, or the one of my girlfriend. GTX960 with FX-8350 and GTX 660TI + Phenom IIX6 (running on 1080p with all effects on and highest grafics settings) does the trick and those are by far not the most expensive pieces of hardware.
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  7. #276
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    Defias Traicere
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    Sargatanas
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    @ Felis
    If there is an app for that then I didn't know about it.
    And yes we got got kicked because we couldn'the enter mumble.

    For me I'd have to be in my room and downstairs at the same time in order to play the game and be on mumble.

    It just wasn't possible. But they didn't care.

    And yes I know they can't tell. But most can figure it out if you can't enter their voice chat program.
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  8. #277
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
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    Feels valid.
    no, it really isnt valid, and im going to tell you the same thing i told you in the thread you made; your idea is bad and goes against what the dev team wants. there is no good reason to segregate the player base, and is the primary reason this game is not on a xbox console. also, the stories about yourself and friend seem far fetched. needing voice chat for LoA? needing voice for unsynced coil? i say there is more to those two stories, and its being left out.
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  9. 02-21-2016 05:53 AM
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  10. #278
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
    It's win-win for the majority.
    No, it's ignorance and stupidity - IMHO.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
    And yes I know they can't tell. But most can figure it out if you can't enter their voice chat program.
    That still doesn't mean it's a console issue and honestly (those players weren't worth your time), your entire idea about splitting the community up is terrible. I'm not sorry, it really is a bad idea (I've played on the PS3 and PS4 up until 2015 and I've only been kicked once in ARR's life time. It wasn't over PCvsConsole, which I'm thinking you're just really unlucky to encounter supposedly frequently).
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  12. #280
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    Zhuge Liang
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Sorry, but if PS4 version (which is currently just the PC version without DX11) get put together with PS3 version, then PC version should get put together wih a Tablet version


    1. You got kicked because you didn't entered mumble, not because you played on PS4 (don't exist an smartphone app for that?)
    2. You don't really need an voice programm for Crystal Tower. Strategy are fast writen down in the chat. So you got kicked because the others were bad players, not because of PS4
    3. PC players can't see if anyone play on a console anyway
    While I agree, in part, with your response. You can differentiate between a console player and a PC player by examining the character. Console players will have their exclusive console based gamertag listed.
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    Last edited by ThusFarJay; 02-21-2016 at 06:59 AM.

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