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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardd View Post
    The fight doesn't look overly hard at all. In fact on the strategy scale it would be pretty low on the ladder in terms of Hardmode fights in WoW. Tank n' Spank until Voidzones pop, then move him out of the way. Don't stand in fire. (Run Away!) when he does charged AoE and Dash. Plus he only has about 10k HP and the fight looks to have a 30 minute timer. I see him going down in 10 mins at launch and then 5 mins a day later. Cake.

    But it does look hella' fun I'm pretty excited for new content.
    Well thats before we see what classes get things added, taken away, and rebalanced (and then theres the whole accurate stats and enemies being rebalanced as such now).

    And whatever the difference between the rank 30 and rank 50 fights are. I'm not expecting it to be insanely hard since its the first true story boss battle, but its not going to be "casually easy" either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardd View Post
    That's 1 boss, try looking up.... pretty much every raid boss released in original Cata, or every raid boss in Icecrown Citadel, or Ulduar, Zul'gurub, Zul'aman....

    I hate to think how bad my old guild is doing on that firelands boss though, they couldn't even make it passed the dragon twins in that shadow temple thing in cata (forgot what it was called, kinda happy that i can't remember too ).

    Besides, the Ifrit video doesn't show everything, it shows clips, there's no real telling exactly what he can do till we finally get to fight him. I'm pretty sure S.E wouldn't show the entire boss fight tactics in a preview video, and I seriously doubt the fight is going to be as simple as some people seem to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardd View Post
    not sure what that video is supposed to prove, it is very dark and i cant really make anything out.
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    Oh goodie another timed fight I hope it's something where we have to train past all the mobs to fight a boss battle, so exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    That's 1 boss, try looking up.... pretty much every raid boss released in original Cata, or every raid boss in Icecrown Citadel, or Ulduar, Zul'gurub, Zul'aman....

    I hate to think how bad my old guild is doing on that firelands boss though, they couldn't even make it passed the dragon twins in that shadow temple thing in cata (forgot what it was called, kinda happy that i can't remember too ).

    Besides, the Ifrit video doesn't show everything, it shows clips, there's no real telling exactly what he can do till we finally get to fight him. I'm pretty sure S.E wouldn't show the entire boss fight tactics in a preview video, and I seriously doubt the fight is going to be as simple as some people seem to think.
    I could link you 10 more HM boss fights that require that same amount of movement and coordination. Firefighter 25m pre nerf? I think you're confusing either a) Normal mode fights in WoW with Hardmodes or b) thinking of FFXI where every fight was either a tank n' spank, zerg or circle kite.

    If you took a look at what I said and actually broke down the MECHANICS you can see in the video you can see clear options of how to combat each thing Ifrit does. All of things, broken down and analyzed are not difficult. With the right coordination/movement and court vision/reaction time the fight looks simple. If you play with baddies then that is your fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies
    not sure what that video is supposed to prove, it is very dark and i cant really make anything out.
    it proves that not every fight in WoW is what Konachibi claims it to be.
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  6. #56
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    this is part of the main story right? is a party battle with no reward for it or is this a dungeon thing too?
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    Oh goodie another timed fight I hope it's something where we have to train past all the mobs to fight a boss battle, so exciting.
    Yes... unluckily the best way to beat the Darkhold
    was to skip the Darkhold.
    That *was* pretty lame design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    Yes... unluckily the best way to beat the Darkhold
    was to skip the Darkhold.
    That *was* pretty lame design.
    yeah that was a poor design choice on SE's part for an entire timed dungeon with trash. this looks to be an instanced boss fight only so timer would just equate to an enrage timer in any other MMO.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seikninkuru View Post
    Oh goodie another timed fight I hope it's something where we have to train past all the mobs to fight a boss battle, so exciting.
    Im pretty sure its nothing like that. It'll be a normal instanced battle (lol actual burning circle) like Richardd was saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teknoman View Post
    Im pretty sure its nothing like that. It'll be a normal instanced battle (lol actual burning circle) like Richardd was saying.
    lol! BCNM I didn't catch that. I wonder if they put that in there on purpose or just more of a aesthetic. I'm going to be super pissed if I run up to that fire fence and I don't catch fire >_>
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