Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Kaurie]

Ex on my lolalt, get Pharos Hard.

Team, me SCH, WAR, DRG and BLM. Tank asks if mid large pulls are go (question was pointed at me) but BLM goes salty. Tank says that he can do singles, but being a BLM should be ok with AOEing (right?).
Fast forward, we get to first boss. I'm DPSing as much as I can and even help with adds. Tank is focusing on boss only (nothing wrong with that imo) but DRG goes salty now and calls out tank why he isn't picking up adds. Tank says they die in like 2 hits so no point for him to "pick them up". Now BLM goes even more salty and says tank has "attitude and bad tank". Now I'm pretty sure at this point me and tank both made the excat same face behind our screens. Tank even asks that is it wrong to ask healer if healer is ok with the plan he is going for. Both BLM and DRG just tell tank to "do his job". I stand up at this point and say he is doing just fine. Tank asks if DPS are mad at him for not picking up those adds at first boss that die in 2 hits. DPS just continue being salty, "Just do your job" "Can we just hurry"

Biiiiigger fast forward last boss. We wipe. Reason to that is on last phase grey bombs didn't die fast enough, even with me helping. DPS just get even more salty and call out on tank. We try again and last phase I start pushing blue bombs away. I was standing behind tank, just about to move away when tank turned boss around which DRG wasn't happy about and /slap him. Tank says he turned it away so I wouldn't get cleaved. We cleared dungeon, tank commended me for not being an ass and gave me com. If you're reading this tank, you got my com <3

That is one crazy story. I've never seen a tank pick up the adds on first boss. Generally, as a SMN, I request the healer to stay close to the main boss so I can just bane and they'll all run in and die. Could have done the same thing there with BLM using Fire II or Flare on boss to kill adds if you went in close.

I generally request the tank picks up the add on the 2nd boss, as it seems to go much more smoothly than otherwise.

Not sure how the Grey Bomb not dying fast enough can be attributed to a bad tank lol - these deeps.

[Malicewolf]

Ex on my lolalt, get Pharos Hard.

Team, me SCH, WAR, DRG and BLM. Tank asks if mid large pulls are go (question was pointed at me) but BLM goes salty. Tank says that he can do singles, but being a BLM should be ok with AOEing (right?).

Fast forward, we get to first boss. I'm DPSing as much as I can and even help with adds. Tank is focusing on boss only (nothing wrong with that imo) but DRG goes salty now and calls out tank why he isn't picking up adds. Tank says they die in like 2 hits so no point for him to "pick them up". Now BLM goes even more salty and says tank has "attitude and bad tank". Now I'm pretty sure at this point me and tank both made the excat same face behind our screens. Tank even asks that is it wrong to ask healer if healer is ok with the plan he is going for. Both BLM and DRG just tell tank to "do his job". I stand up at this point and say he is doing just fine. Tank asks if DPS are mad at him for not picking up those adds at first boss that die in 2 hits. DPS just continue being salty, "Just do your job" "Can we just hurry"

Biiiiigger fast forward last boss. We wipe. Reason to that is on last phase grey bombs didn't die fast enough, even with me helping. DPS just get even more salty and call out on tank. We try again and last phase I start pushing blue bombs away. I was standing behind tank, just about to move away when tank turned boss around which DRG wasn't happy about and /slap him. Tank says he turned it away so I wouldn't get cleaved. We cleared dungeon, tank commended me for not being an ass and gave me com. If you're reading this tank, you got my com <3

Wha... why? Everything about the DPS in that sounds horrible... 1st of all, on 1st boss, where those dang adds die, they spread that green poison spew. Meaning, if tank picks them up, you also gotta move the boss so the DPS can get positions (if melee). Even 2nd boss tanks usually don't pick up. If they do, it's not the biggest deal so long as you cover the vents (which funny enough, last Pharos HM run I had, the DRG kept picking up slimes and murdering them away from the vents. Was a very messy 2nd boss run, but still went fine).

And as for the last boss, maybe I'm the weird one here. But as a tank, I'm usually the one keeping the blue bombs away... Healer's would no doubt have an easier time, especially with the ability to hit from afar, but I've noticed a lot of time, no one else bothers to deal with them. So I just do it. Hit the 2 into each other and keep them in back corner. But yea, if grey bombs wipe you, that's a DPS check fail. Unless you were letting the blue bombs get to them.

[Ashkendor]

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Sounds like you had awful DPS in that party that were just looking for random things to bitch about, honestly. What kind of BLM minds big pulls?! As for the first boss, I don't like seeing tanks pick up the adds because some of them leave the poison floor poop when they die, which means the tank then has to move the boss. It's easier to let them run to the healer and destroy them since they die so fast anyway. As healer I usually handle the slime adds at the second boss (Ruin II is OP for fast pickups and they die in a few hits anyway) and remedy bombs as well. SCH can slow them both with Miasma II and smack them both into the back wall over and over again with Ruin II. It's like a game of ping-pong but with more potential explosions. :3

[Jeibird]

Helping friend from FC level their WHM. q up for Keeper cuz cool final boss and ok exp. War ask for big pulls, WHM Friend says give it a shot. Tank drops twice and then bites penalty. Didn't notice until their second death that they pulled like 8 mobs and didnt use a single CD

[LDR]

Appologise to the tank the other day, whom did perfectly and everything they could; that in the past i never bothered to level ARC for quelling strikes.

I wasn't aware that rng luck was on my side and that apparantly in that instance 705 crit meant every dot, every baned dot, every painfalre, and every deathflare would crit, again, and again, and again, for every gorram tick.

I really wasn't trying to steal agro! for once
also props to the AST for pro synast use, im sorry you had to use it on CD for me

[LelenaLena]

Was running my daily 60 roulette, and got Never. The tank and one DPS were fairly new, and slightly undergeared, so the run was pretty slow. They, however, are not the focus of this story. The focus is the other DPS, a MCH, who clearly had never played MCH at all, despite having it and all other classes at lvl 60.

The MCH did not use ammo, did not deploy its turrets, spammed Clean Shot without procs, would stop using any abilities for long periods, spammed Hot Shot, spammed Grenado Shot on the bosses, and when it started to finally use turrets, would drop them at the edges of the arenas, and turn on Overcharge.

My guild, after I told them this, guessed that it was a friend of the account owner playing for the first time.
Remember people, friends don't let friends play MCH at lvl 60 for the first time.

[Eidolon]

NIN today in Duty Roulette. Girlfriend and I tried to ask him why he wasnt' doing some things - Such as maintaining DoT's, or Huton for that matter.

Appearantly, knowing how to do AoE on NIN, DoT's and sustaining Huton = Getting a college degree in this game.

Finally got tired of the passive-aggressive victim BS attitude of the DPS, and kicked him. The MCH left too, and we got two awesome DPS right after and finished up way faster. Props to the new guys we got - they were a fresh 60 MNK who -killed- it by comparison and a pretty wicked BLM that made me pay attention to using my threat to keep off them.

Purple = lolNIN
Blue = Tank
Green = Heals
Red = MCH

[NorthernLadMSP]

The last two nights in Level 50 Roulette have been a complete nightmare. I've been working on leveling my bard (thank God, I'm 59, halfway to 60).

Wednesday night was the worst. Got into Sastasha HM. Me a 58 BRD, a NIN who was at least level 54 if not higher, a WAR and a SCH who was level 50, but in fully upgraded Poetics gear, which is great gear for this level 50 dungeon.

The very first boss of Sastasha: The healer was not Leeching any of the Slimes the boss puts on you. The SCH couldn't keep anyone healed up, even though she didn't DPS once - not even with Lustrates and Eos out. Finally, the tank gets pissed at the NIN for not stunning the boss. Now, I know fully good and well a WAR has a great stun with a pretty low cooldown (and as far as I know NIN doesn't have a stun at all) but apparently it was up to the NIN to stun the boss.

After the fourth wipe, the WAR and the horribad SCH left. Then the NIN, who was thoroughly trying to do the best he could left. I ended up having to leave.

Re-queue and get into Keeper of the Lake. Long story short here, the adds were dying so slow, I thought I was going to fall asleep. I ended up checking the DRG's gear (who was at least level 51 because he had the synched icon next to his name) and found out his accessories were a mix of level 55 PVP gear and level 40 aiming accessories.

[Malicewolf]

NIN today in Duty Roulette. Girlfriend and I tried to ask him why he wasnt' doing some things - Such as maintaining DoT's, or Huton for that matter.

Appearantly, knowing how to do AoE on NIN, DoT's and sustaining Huton = Getting a college degree in this game.

Finally got tired of the passive-aggressive victim BS attitude of the DPS, and kicked him. The MCH left too, and we got two awesome DPS right after and finished up way faster. Props to the new guys we got - they were a fresh 60 MNK who -killed- it by comparison and a pretty wicked BLM that made me pay attention to using my threat to keep off them.

Purple = lolNIN
Blue = Tank
Green = Heals
Red = MCH

... I have to agree with the MCH here... Sure, you weren't saying anything that wasn't true, but your gf (I believe your gf was healer) was a bit harsh in the advice part. I can understand sometimes trying to type quickly and get the point across in a quick manner can come across as blunt, but considering how long this convo was overall, you guys could have been a bit nicer... Honestly, healer was probably the rudest. Eidolon, you weren't too bad, but the healer was very rude. Everytime you said something that was constructive, she would immediately go into overly criticize mode.

I don't often sit and do death blossom on big mob pulls either honestly. It's much more effective (imo) to just burn down with a sustained doton, get dancing edge up and them nail away with aoelean edge while sustaining my huton every 30 sec or so. I actually use Katon often for bigger pulls. Been contemplating if that's worth it as it seems very underwhelming though. But on Ex roulette, i've been able to burn through enemies fairly quickly and I've tested it. It's much better than me spammingn out death blossom unless they are all low hp. But a NIN and a MCH don't have good cohesion with the AoE's. Neither have huge AoE hitters. If it was a SMN or a BLM, then yea, death blossom would of been decent imo. But you'd of sat there forever waiting for a MCH and NIN to burn a large mob pull with death blossom and spreadshot or grenado shot. And if you have the MCH providing you with TP instead of dmging the mob, that makes things even slower.

So if anything, I'd say you guys weren't really utilizing your party well either... A NIN with a good single target damage rotation will wreck a mob very quickly. Now, from the sounds of it, this NIN didn't have that down either, but still, I wouldn't say you guys were in the right here....

[Eidolon]

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6 mobs, if you're being fed TP, it is definitely better to do Death Blossom, and here's why:

Ninja's highest potency attack in rotation is 440 potency (DoT: Shadow Fang)
Death Blossom is 100 AoE potency. 100 potency per enemy. 5 enemies = 500 potency. Instantly better than Shadow Fang by itself, and this doesn't even take into consideration that it has to be primed.


Yes. Doton is great if it lasts until the mob dies - otherwise, Katon. And Death Blossom will outright wreck your TP if you're nto being fed. But you have a WAR using overpower, a MCH using AoE shots with TP turret, and a NIN single targetting things down who isn't even bothering to maintain Huton. in that situation, he was way underperforming and to be honest? This isn't kindergarden. We should be able to tell people if they can improve in some spots without these passive-aggressive victim routines.

Knowing the break point of your class for AoE isn't required knowledge - but if someone's offering you the info, don't get hyper defensive about it. People are way too sensitive about fair advice and it's getting tired how fast people turn to a victim routine like this NIN. You shouldn't have to baby feed someone information for fear of hurting their feelings. How do these people survive in the real world?