[GM] Please take notice. Make statement on housing.

[Felis]

Oh and by your logic pretty much all crafters would have to be banned also then cause people pay them in game currency to do something for them instead of them crafting it themselves.

If the crafters want you to pay them first so they put something into the MB you can then buy and pay a second time, then i think yes.

The problem here is that a player don't pay another player for his house, but that the other player just demolish his house.
Double cost and the risk that someone else buy the new free plot faster (as an example a friend of the seller).

[Andrea]

If the crafters want you to pay them first so they put something into the MB you can then buy and pay a second time, then i think yes.

I buy something off a crafter for 5.5m. The most I can trade at 1 time is 1m gil. So I have two options.

1. Give the crafter the money up front and risk them running off with the money.
or 2. Get the item first and them risk me running off with the item without paying.

Sounds similar to the housing situation wouldn't you agree?

Ps. Im not saying that this happens a lot im sure very little trades ever happen like that but theres always the chance. Fortunately the GMs are pretty good about this stuff.

[Ilitsa]

Also I love how yet another thread is drifting towards the crafters = Satan.

I know I've brought up crafting a few times, but I just want to clarify, incase it's come off as that, I don't think crafters are bad in the slightest, they deserve the gil they make off their crafts, without a doubt, I just use them as an example of why the house sellers shouldn't be reprimanded =)

That said, if people are willing to pay 20k for a HQ level 35 chest piece, I'm not arguing.

And if someone is willing to spend 5-10 mil extra on top of the market value of a house, who is anyone to argue with it? I've never seen a house go for "triple" the market value, ever, as some people in this thread have tried to imply.

Ps. Im not saying that this happens a lot im sure very little trades ever happen like that but theres always the chance. Fortunately the GMs are pretty good about this stuff.

That kind of stuff happens quite often, before I transferred off balmung, had an FC offer to buy my medium house for 15m, agreement was to trade half the cost, then I vacate, I never got the other half, I simply cut my losses and learned my lesson, and will never again deal in a situation like that, I get all up front, or no deal on anything from now on. I didn't run and cry to GMs or anything because it was my own fault

[Teryaani]

And if someone is willing to spend 5-10 mil extra on top of the market value of a house, who is anyone to argue with it? I've never seen a house go for "triple" the market value, ever, as some people in this thread have tried to imply.

Totally agree. Granted I'm on the same server as you are and our housing demand is lower, but still. I've never seen a cost that high. And if someone is willing to pay it, whatever. If not , it won't sell and the price will come down naturally.

There was mention at one point of reselling of plots being a feature included in housing, sure it was said in passing, but still.

[dark494]

27 pages and not even an acknowledgement from a GM, Community Rep, or Dev.

In the meantime GM's in-game are still doing whatever they please on the issue, PF's for selling houses are still there every day when I log on, and everyone's going crazy.

[Lexia]

And if someone is willing to spend 5-10 mil extra on top of the market value of a house, who is anyone to argue with it? I've never seen a house go for "triple" the market value, ever, as some people in this thread have tried to imply.

I didn't come to back to argue what it right or wrong and done with that part of the thread and I don't know how big Siren server is but cause you haven't seen doesn't mean it don't happen, I seen it more then couple times on Balmung, a small house on Balmung sells from the system for 5 million gil and people have tried to sell as high as 50 million gil which is 10 times the markup but also seen prices any where from 20-50 million even at 20 which a house is more/was more commonly sold is still 4 times above the system price.

[Ilitsa]

I didn't come to back to argue what it right or wrong and done with that part of the thread and I don't know how big Siren server is but cause you haven't seen doesn't mean it don't happen, I seen it more then couple times on Balmung, a small house on Balmung sells from the system for 5 million gil and people have tried to sell as high as 50 million gil which is 10 times the markup but also seen prices any where from 20-50 million even at 20 which a house is more/was more commonly sold is still 4 times above the system price.

you obviously entirely ignored my next part, in which I stated "before I transferred off balmung" Good job.

[Lexia]

you obviously entirely ignored my next part, in which I stated "before I transferred off balmung" Good job.

When did you transfer off balmung? If you transferred before the reclaim then you would not seen the prices people on balmung were trying to sell houses they bought up from the reclaim for and yes i did ignore you next part cause regardless if you were on balmung you said you "never" seen any more then triple the price which I made the post about.

[SnugglesD]

I think the only one breaking the ToS is the OP. That many support tickets can only be considered harassment. Seriously, dude, give the GMs a break.

[MihaelB]

Bump for request of a public statement.