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  1. #11
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    I don't know, personally I like not having to rely on melds and crafting to gather efficiently (except for accessories but that'll never change we all know that).

    Now that I have my gearing out of the way, I'm not even sure what to do with my red scrips. I suppose I could gather favors for others. Hm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    I don't know, personally I like not having to rely on melds and crafting to gather efficiently (except for accessories but that'll never change we all know that).

    Now that I have my gearing out of the way, I'm not even sure what to do with my red scrips. I suppose I could gather favors for others. Hm.
    That is generally the best use of them, yeah. For the same amount of red scrips as the gatherer main hand you could get every crafting body piece made almost, it's a bit ridiculous (though that does require other materials as well).
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    That is generally the best use of them, yeah. For the same amount of red scrips as the gatherer main hand you could get every crafting body piece made almost, it's a bit ridiculous (though that does require other materials as well).
    Well I mean to be fair it's the ONLY use for them I have now. I have all the red scrip gathering gear now. Hope the patch brings something else to do with them.

    Though, I had my GSM chest made. It was hard, and expensive...it would've been expensive even if I had sacrificed some of my gathering scrips. Those "other materials" are...a bit steep.
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    why should I have to choose between gearing my gatherers or gearing my crafters?
    You don't?
    As I already said: you don't immediately need the gear to gather the mats. So Equip your crafters first. Once you have done that, there is more than enough time to "future proof" you gatherers.

    Though lets be honest here: SE WILL design it in a way that you WILL grind gear again in 3.2 or 3.3, depending on when they release the "next tier" of items. So the term "future proof" is on shaky ground at best.

    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    I don't know, personally I like not having to rely on melds and crafting to gather efficiently (except for accessories but that'll never change we all know that).
    Agreed. I HATE overmelds past slot 1 @ 35% (even that can be annoying). Such a moronic and frustrating design. I just hate to see all my time and effort wasted because RNG says "F*** YOU PLAYER!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    You don't?
    As I already said: you don't immediately need the gear to gather the mats. So Equip your crafters first. Once you have done that, there is more than enough time to "future proof" you gatherers.
    Considering it takes 80 Rowena's Tokens (Red Gatherer's Scrips), which takes 4000 Red Gatherer's Scrips, which takes 9 weeks (you'll have an extra 50 scrips) for one gathering class, I can understand his frustration on having to put it off. Especially if he wants to do that for all three gatherers with no option to get around the gating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    Considering it takes 80 Rowena's Tokens (Red Gatherer's Scrips), which takes 4000 Red Gatherer's Scrips, which takes 9 weeks (you'll have an extra 50 scrips) for one gathering class, I can understand his frustration on having to put it off. Especially if he wants to do that for all three gatherers with no option to get around the gating.
    I could understand his frustration if the gear was needed in order to collect stuff and be productive, absolutely.
    But it isn't.
    So it's basically just some pretty set he wants to have for kinks and stuff (or completionist OCD) so... not really a problem if it takes a few weeks.

    I'd love to have all the 180 gear for all my crafters too... but I know that it isn't a realistic goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    I could understand his frustration if the gear was needed in order to collect stuff and be productive, absolutely.
    But it isn't.
    So it's basically just some pretty set he wants to have for kinks and stuff (or completionist OCD) so... not really a problem if it takes a few weeks.

    I'd love to have all the 180 gear for all my crafters too... but I know that it isn't a realistic goal.
    You speak fair points, but again I must ask, why? Why should I have to get this 180 set to gear the gatherers? Especially when, if they ever DO make a 170 set, the 170 set will be better and cost less resources?

    It's just so weird that crafters have two options, when gatherers only have one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    It's just so weird that crafters have two options, when gatherers only have one...
    With the blue and red gathering scrip gear, SE made gatherers relatively independent of crafters. You can progress to gathering from every node in the game using only vendor gear, blue scrip gear, and red scrip gear for your left side and offhand.

    You need crafted jewelry to get a decent amount of GP of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    With the blue and red gathering scrip gear, SE made gatherers relatively independent of crafters. You can progress to gathering from every node in the game using only vendor gear, blue scrip gear, and red scrip gear for your left side and offhand.

    You need crafted jewelry to get a decent amount of GP of course.
    I guess that makes sense, if that was the intent.

    I guess the real problem here lies in needing gathering scrips for favors. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    You speak fair points, but again I must ask, why? Why should I have to get this 180 set to gear the gatherers? Especially when, if they ever DO make a 170 set, the 170 set will be better and cost less resources?
    i170 will be better if you meld it with TV materia. I'd hardly call that "costing less resources", given the horrible RNG involved. Oo

    I agree that "no option" is awkward, esp considering that with a few gentle melds in your chimaera gear, you don't even need the blue stuff past the main hand.

    And yes: Favors are a mess I certainly won't touch. At least not until red scripts become uncapped.
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