Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[LDR]

queue story for easy tomes on my DRK char, get prae; ok sure this is easy enough. co-tank instantly shouts Off-tank.
i dont say anything because sure w/e this place is jokes but
well i aint never "Main tanked" prae before, ive only witnessed it so LORD KNOWS WHAT IM DOING EXACTLY

everything seemed to go fine though, no complaints from anyone at least, but man i was laughing the entire time because it was just.
do I pull this? well im going to anyway
do i go now or wait... im going now bye.
i realised pretty quickly all i needed was Unleash so i would burn my TP in sprint, nyoom around pikcing up 50 million adds and then standing there like, ok now what and hoping the healers werent miles behind my fast ass.
the hands in nero ping ponged me about like crazy, apparantly those are outright ignored now until someone ends up in the wall, idk.
and the second round of ultima was basically a game of DDR with all the blue lazers aiming at my MT position. i may have eaten some while BP was up, no idea what the healers thought of me.

still, i found it a rather funny run to myself; have 0 clue what your doing, sprint the enitre run, and pull things you can probably skip and tank in stupid spots.

[sayafrost]

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HA; this weekend I had something like this, but the PLD wanted to go main tank, without any stance on them, and I as warrior was running behind him and trying to save others with all the mobs he was losing around =___=; I tried to repeat few times to use the SHIELD OATH but nothing, I ended to MT everything in the end without even trying <o<;

[Ashkendor]

His answer... "It's just the 1st boss, we don't need it". Honestly. This is true. But by damn, it has such a long CD. It's one. Freaking. Cure. Just do it.
"Any mitigation is helpful though " (notice I'm still using smiley's to hide my frustration)
"Whatever"

As SCH, I start off every boss fight with Stone Skin and a Deployment Tactics Adlo + E4E so I can just face DPS the boss through its first few attacks no matter who they're on. I really dislike when tanks run off before I get to Deploy (or it ends up only hitting 1 person) because that Adlo leaves me able to basically ignore almost everything the boss does for a significant portion of the fight.

I should bug Paladins to cast Divine Veil too. Moar deeps for me! o3o

[seida]

Today I was tanking Halatali HM, and there was the worst SMN I have ever come across.

THE ENTIRE DUNGEON they did not use shadowflare or ANY dots. Not even once! They literally just spammed ruin II the entire time!

Should have kicked them really, I did ask them nicely to please use their other abilities. Very frustrating...

[Aldebaran92]

Level 60 roulette as Ast, get Alwaysreap. Tank and Ninja are new, but we clear everything up until the last boss just fine with me having to hold back my DPS a bit due to the tank's gear level (with mine being 208).

Now, I had assumed that the tank had had basic knowledge of the dungeon, as he rushed in to every boss battle without asking or waiting for information, so I thought the last boss would be a cakewalk as well. The tank managed to fall off to the first knockback, so I of course had to play tank for the rest of the battle. No big deal, 2 DPS still standing. Then the other DPS, a Summoner, falls off to the second knockback. Oh boy. Starting to get a little worried, as the Ninja was basically just geared enough for the dungeon and I didn't know if our combined DPS could take out the boss before my MP went dry.

But we did it, and I of course had to summarize with "stronk independent healer needs no tank". Everyone cheered and the tank apologized for being a newb. I told him not to worry, it happens and this was by far the most fun I've had in the game lately. Commended the tank for his nice attitude and I myself got all comms, which was a nice bonus.

[Malicewolf]

On the contrary, pld/whm is an amazing combo. Shroud ensures they aren't going to take hate as long as you're flashing. To take full advantage of a whm healer you should pull with convalescence up because as a white mage, i'll be putting divine seal regen on you at the start. Wait for the first three holies since it's a 6 second stun, then, depending on how much damage you're taking relative to their boosted regen, pick and choose cooldowns accordingly. when you dip below, say, 75% hp, hallowed ground so they can keep the holy train rolling. Remember unlike holmgang and living dead, you don't have to be at low hp for it to do something.

Even the easy dungeons can be hard if you challenge yourself, and your reward is faster clears.

It sounds to me like that whm wasn't using shroud of saints, but on the other hand hallowed ground isn't a panic button, it's a standard part of your cooldown rotation. Though if you were able to use ALL of those cooldowns, dps may have been lacking as well.

Sorry, I didn't mean that they are a bad combo in general. I agree with you, I love WHM's. The only reason I said the combo was bad in this case is because we had 2 support DPS and his holy'ing meant I had to use flash instead of hitting them. Holy is great, but I think in this case, we were losing DPS overall. One of those, you hit everything, but nothing is dying scenarios. I'm still taking damage from all of them and it benefits me more if it's going to drag on to get one down at a time.

But my usual WHM healer's don't use Holy as much, and if they do, they do so more subtly. I don't think this one was popping shroud for whatever reason. Because he was ahead of both DPS and I was WAY ahead of both of them. He was always on the cusp of taking from me. He was better geared, but I was still ilvl 190. He was not a full 210 either. Probably around 205ish. And I do use Hallowed Ground as more than a panic button, but I don't use it if it's simply not needed. If I know rampart and foresight are gonna get me through the mob(s), I won't waste Hallowed Ground simply because you never know when you will need it. I'll especially try to hold off before a boss fight. I've saved a few wipes with Hallowed Ground and Clemency to finish off a boss when healer dies. Doesn't always work, but when it does \*0*/

But yea, guess this was my first time getting an extremely aggressive healer, WHM to be exact here. Like I said, the style isn't what upset me, it was more so his attitude. But anywho, thanks for the knowledge on WHM to those who responded. Always like to improve and if I see that play style again, I hope to be able to cope with it better.

[Iagainsti]

Just to clarify, is it not basic knowledge that .5 from Alex 1 auto aggros whoever MTs? Had multiple runs of A1 nm yesterday to finish off my Unidentifiable Bone items, and most times, as a Warrior, I get the OT slot. Every time the main tank acted like I shouted Banana Hammock in church because id voke oppressor off him and of course .5 would stack bc he wouldn't move north. Even after I explain the simple mechanics that is the easiest tank swap in the game so far, 9/10 the mt would still want to do it the wrong way, as if grabbing a moving target and wrestling for aggro is much easier than keeping oppressor in the south, OT vokes for and easy pick up, dps do not have to move, and all the MT does is run north, hell hit autorun if you're that lazy. Finally rage quit the grind with 2 token bolts still needed, but I just couldn't deal with the thick headed nonsense any longer. Please DF tanks, learn the mechanics.

[Kaurie]

Was in level 60 roulette yesterday, queued in with DRK, WHM, NIN.

I quickly noticed on the first pull that things were going a little slowly, this seemed odd to me a we're super over-geared and my SMN aoe should have melted the pack.

We get to the first boss, and I notice the that NIN is downing the feathers very slowly - guessing his DPS was pretty poor.

After the first boss, the tank pulls all of the next sets of mobs 2 at a time. I think to myself, why wouldn't you grab all 4 guys with the AoE of SMN - we're all vastly overgeared here to be concerned. So, I figure maybe the healer is letting him drop too much. I watch that for a bit and see the healer has Medica II and regen up on the tank and is spamming cure while the tank is at 99% hp.

I begin to get very frustrated at this tank who is pulling very small pulls, healer who is waaay overhealing and NIN who is not dpsing. I thought to ask for bigger pulls, or mention something to any of the 3 of them.. but.. I decided not to. I decided I'll just lower myself down to their level, I threw up dots on all bad guys and didn't use any more aetherflows. I spammed some ruins here or there, and we finished the dungeon. I got a commendation.

I always advise to not lower your skill level when paired with terrible players, but in this case I did and I guess it wasn't that bad.

[Erys]

>Overall bad and cringey party.
>I got a commendation.

Please, tell me I'm not the only one who feels dirty getting those commendations.

[Heliantheae]

Got Pharos HM for my roulette today. I went in with a tank, but he was having connection problems and apologized and had to leave after the first boss. The rest of us decided to see how far we could go before a new tank showed up. A new tank joined as we were killing the second boss. We went through the entire second part of the dungeon tankless. It was awesome. And now with a tank, it was going smoothly. But this is me we're talking about here, it can't go too smoothly without me futzing it up. So fighting the mom bomb, she was under half and I hit her with trick attack and dancing edge, so I started to LB. Then she summoned her two Grey Bombs and instead of stopping and getting them, I stood there and let my LB go off. This gave one of the Grey Bombs enough time to blow up before we could kill it. I died and everyone else was almost dead, but thanks to that awesome healer we made it through. It would have been a pretty perfect run if I didn't do that though.