Tanks can't keep aggro.

[DarkChild]

Better Tanks than me have given me some sound advice. "If they want to keep taking the hate from you let them keep it."

[technole]

It's been awhile because I don't usually do roulettes without one of my linkshell tanks, or if I'm going completely random I'll do the tanking myself. In duty finder land I would say the biggest tank offenders that will lose aggro the most are those that pull while not in tank stance. So Deliverance, No Grit(s), and Sword Oats.

What ends up happening is there are DPS and healers which ultimately are better geared than the tank and will burst higher threat at the pull. The tank is just not doing their job right in this sense and basically are pulling like they are just another DPS with no threat advantage.


It leads to poor tank play, and they probably do it because they have gotten away with it with previous DF parties with bad DPS. Basically it's okay to tank in DPS stance, but you have to pull correctly and generate enough threat first. If you think you can pull in Deliverance as a hotshot i190 warrior and you didn't realize you have a i209 Dragoon, and a i210 white mage ready to burst some DPS at the pull you are in or a rude awakening.

As for losing hate in the pull even when pulling in tank stance, that is the tank's issue for not keeping AoE threat, or just focusing on one mob. This is what I tell anyone who wants to tank: "DPS AoEs don't listen to your measly target numbers, learn to get rid of those training wheels as soon as possible".

[Twilite]

Better Tanks than me have given me some sound advice. "If they want to keep taking the hate from you let them keep it."

You say it like healers are trying to take aggro intentionally. You're a tank. You know better. Heal spells are silent creepers in enmity. If you only worry about the DPS attacking your target, the healer is going to be staring at red triangles on every fight, for that reason alone is why AOE threat is necessary.

Also I'll be very bold and say those aren't better tanks than you telling you that. Those are morons.

[Jpec07]

Better Tanks than me have given me some sound advice. "If they want to keep taking the hate from you let them keep it."

As a career tank, I will say: that's bad advice. If a DPS is just being a fool and attacking the wrong target after you've marked, that's one thing, but if a healer pulls off you? You'd better make damn sure you get that enmity back, or else your ass is going to die. The worst thing you can do as a tank is piss off your healer - you are nothing without them.

Really, as a healer, the only thing you can do is make sure they're in their tank stance, and make sure not to pre-HoT them, and to attack the right target. Otherwise, enmity really isn't too much your responsibility, and hate loss is on the tank.

[m3eansean]

Better Tanks than me have given me some sound advice. "If they want to keep taking the hate from you let them keep it."

Poor advice. Healer is not trying to rip hate off. So much for being a team player :/