you guys went overboard with this new relic

[BreathlessTao]

Technically, all that is not incorrect - but this isn't addressing the issues we have. The fact that it's not powerful, the fact that it's poorly designed, the fact that the "quest" is poorly designed, the fact that the invested time isn't worth the result - especially for a "normal" player who'd get it by 3.25/3.3 for example, by the time we'll have much easier ways to obtain i210 weapons....

[SlyTribal]

So glad they aren't nerfing it

[Conando]

It's not difficult content though. Unless you find dying a little inside a challenge.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Thats a thousand times the issue here.

Time Investment isn`t difficulty, its not challenge, just as RNG isn`t challenge either. All of this long process all it does is literally to take away any difficulty and throw it out the window and replace it with boredom. Only challenge of this whole quests is to keep yourself awake while doing it.

[FeliAiko]

The relics aren't meant to be difficult to get, that's the fact of the matter now. As engaging as the 2.0 quest was, it apparently was too much for certain players so the Zodiac line was born to appease those wanting a reward without any semblance of a challenge, which has continued on with the Anima line.

Cant say I'm surprised though. SE felt compelled to 'adjust' Sastasha of all dungeons, nerfed Steps when all it required was basic communication and common sense, so giving players means to get a powerful weapon (reward) for minimal effort is par the course really.

The least SE could do at this point is marry the process to an engaging storyline, as well as adding unique cosmetic rewards to the weapon, depending on stage. Customisable glows, having the weapon glow when sheathed as well as when drawn, etc.

[tekclaw]

My main issue lies with the crafting aspect.

Yes the quest line is supremely boring, but at least there is an end in sight. At this rate though it will take longer for me to get the required gil than it will for me to finish the rest of the line.

[cgbspender]

Truly, I don't understand the difficulty you mention about the crafted items. Sure it's not simple to craft. And it's not too cheap either. On the other hand, I posted a thread 30 hours ago, both in [Moogle] subforum and in [Crafters] subforum, offering to craft some for FREE, HQ. Guess what ? Got no answer at all.

I am pretty sure you could shout in cities, asking for someone to craft them if you bring the mats, you would have plenty of answers. Definitly not all crafters are after your money.

[Liria]

It seemed like to me this live letter was all about telling us: "We don't care about your opinions, we WILL do as planned and you deal with it" with a sweet and roundabout way.

I can do content with ilv 190 just fine. Why would I waste my time getting a weapon just because of glows? Or for stats that I will not even need at all if I'm mostly doing casual content that I can complete with my current gear? I can only see this ilv 210 relic being really usefull for players that are trying to aim for BiS gear, and they mostly do end game content were they can get a ilv 210 weapon is a way less painfull way.

The live letter actually added more motives for me not renewing my sub. Aside from my rant about the game, I'm really sad the game I spent so much time and actually had so much fun before reached this point. I did not signed up for Hellsward Grind Fantasy Online.

[Cwestcott18]

I didn't know this thread was still going, and for 51 PAGES, how many times can it be said, that if you dislike the relics and their quest lines, then, DO NOT DO RELICS, THEY ARE NOT MANDATORY AND DO NOT HAVE ANY REFLECTION ON ONES OWN ABILITIES. I am glad the developers have stuck with what they intended and not nerfed the relics, it is meant to take time, and really people are complaining because they expect to grind it all out in a matter of a month, if it takes longer it takes longer.

[VirusChris]

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Hasn't someone already point out that saying "Do not do Relics it's not require" is not a valid argument and just an excuse? Honestly I do the Relic because I like working on my weapon and then being able to customize it at a later date plus having it glow is super cool, but the stats it has and the time to invest it is not worth it. I wonder what will happen if more than 60% or more people do not do the Relics at all after this point... will SE continue to work on it when no one does it? I want to have fun working on my weapon and something engaging at the same time like the first part of the Zodiac Relic... that was awesome.

I'll eventually get the i210, but by the time we get to 3.25 or so the Relic will be obsolete by then and no point. If they're going to gate it behind the use of many classes just make it better than the Raid Weapons or give it three stats or a special ability or something to justify the grind for it. Heck the XI Legendary were not "mandatory" to do, but they were worth it in the long run. Wished XIV also made the Relic worth it in the long run too.