[Request] Please add a PvP option for step 3 of the Anima Quest

[Ikki_Wiki]

Yet another patch that completely killed PvP queues. Why is poetics an adecuate currency but Wolf Mark's arent?

[Natashio]

Meh...happens every patch. I've kind of gotten use it by now. Oh well..back to capping things through mindless, linear, predictable monkey do-monkey see dungeons. :.<

[SonjaRampage]

I completely agree, this was definitely a missed opportunity to give pvp a much needed boost in participation. Folks that would otherwise not do it or haven't tried it might even end up long time players. Sure beats hour long ques....

[Guesswhat]

Another kick in the face for PvPers. Another confirmation SE don't care about PvP. They just have PvP in there 'cause it would be too embarrassing not to have any PvP.

Seriously, this is probably not true, but what else is one to believe? If they really cared they would have done, you know, PvP stuff for each patch. Like making PvP relevant to relic.

[Dotsusama]

SIGNED because queues for my GC were bad enough before, but this doesn't give much incentive to do anything EXCEPT other things for the relic. Whereas I just now burn my Wolf Marks on desynthesis when I cap it anyway...

[TheWaywardWind]

As much as I dread adding relic hunters to the already bad esoteric hunter problem, I still support this completely. Should've been there to begin with.

[Dimitrii]

This would make way too much sense to add in (especially since its content that some ppl enjoy doing repeatedly anyway since its not a scripted monotonous engagement like the trials and dungeons become) for SE to actually do lol. I dont think they actually intend for relic acquisition to be enjoyable just time consuming.

[ess-vid]

What? No. Don't be daft.

Yeah hi I'm one of the crazy relic grinders you guys are talking about, I did multiple ones when each step was current (went into expac with basically 6 done). You don't want us anywhere near PvP. We are locusts and will turn content on its ear to get what we need in the most efficient way possible, actual objectives be damned. Remember you're dealing with people that ran Westwind 2000 times over a few days, only stopping to eat and sleep. People that would queue up for Brayflox Hard as 3man teams and vote abandon after the 2nd boss because to hell with that 4th guy this gets us tomes 10 seconds faster.
If you put the tokens on the Wolf Mark vendors, you'd have to make them so prohibitively expensive that no one would bother, otherwise you'll end up with something awful like alliances throwing matches to each other to grind faster or whatever nonsense they math out to be most efficient. I'll take longer queues over having 23 idiots screaming at me because I want to win at pvp rather than shave 30 seconds off the relic grind.

[Guesswhat]

@ess-vid

Agreeable, though it's inside-the-box thinking. Not that I blame you; you kinda have to think around the system as it is. SE has shot themselves in the foot when it comes to PvP. If they, for instance, had implemented a rating system based on performance (like fates), it would be harder to exploit. Just give players a noob buffer (10 matches/ranks/etc) to adjust. Else, if you don't achieve gold rating NO SOUP FOR YOU!! Of course, it doesn't have to be like this, just a suggestion from the top of my head.

[Dotsusama]

I'll take longer queues over having 23 idiots screaming at me because I want to win at pvp rather than shave 30 seconds off the relic grind.

No, see, the suggestion isn't to make this a truly viable competitor to all the other activities in order to encourage this kind of behavior at all. From what I understand it's a "while you're at it" kind of situation. People already behave this way when they enter into a match via Roulette. "I'm only here for the Esoterics" kind of people, anyway. I don't think there would be a tremendous influx of those would rather grind PVP than PVE objectives for their relic completion. But what it WOULD do is bring back the people who have abandoned PVP in favor of hardcore grinding an Anima weapon. An incentive to actually still play a match or two and not just feel like it's a complete waste of time compared to beast tribe quests, hunts, raid spam, etc.