you guys went overboard with this new relic

[Demise]

"We don't really care about the game anymore, as seen in previous patches, and we have no intentions to make new things for you to play with that are fun or exciting, so just shut up and grind."

And then everyone did, and told people who thought maybe the devs should put a liiiitle more effort into this to go do something else or quit instead. And then they sat in their queues wondering why they were so long and why there wasn't anyone left playing the game with them.

Grind is one thing. Making it soul crushingly boring and rehashing old content that's already expired is not the way to keep people interested and motivated. I also like having a goal to work towards, but at a certain point it's not just 'well this is boring but at least some parts of it are fun' and more 'why should I keep shoving broken glass under my finger nails when I could stare at a wall or watch paint dry instead.'

Basically, I was ready to put my guns on and get myself dat crit scholar book until I saw that last step. I am perfectly fine with grinding out fates and fighting shitty drop rates and the RNG god. But the last step is just SE torturing us because they can.

[WinterLuna]

Then don't grind it. Do it slowly and surely. This isn't the only content left in the game. Actually try and enjoy yourself in the game, and not race through it.

[Fleitos]

Just to show you how mad the last stage is, I'm copy pasting from my reddit thread;

Bear in mind this is AFTER the new Atma FATE farms and dungeon runs needed. Note that trading in your old Zeta relic only lets you skip the FATE farm stage.

There are 4 final items you need. Each final item requires 20 Unidentified items as well as 4 HQ crafted items (not listed below as I don't know how to get them. Dirty non crafter)

Each option below is the maximum for each gather method for the Unidentified items and can be combined with the others (e.g. for Bone you could do 100 Alex & 130 Beast Tribe tokens and for Seeds you could do 50 Alex, 120 Beast, 3400 Law)

Divide by 20 to get the 'price' per unidentified item. Maps are random chance to drop an unidentified item it seems so they're listed as possibly more than 20.
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200 Alex 1 runs // 260 Beast Tribe // 13,600 Poetics // 20000 Allied Seal -> Bone (Rubber)

200 Alex 2 runs // 260 Beast Tribe // 13,600 Poetics // >=20 Heavensward Maps -> Shell (Carboncoat)

200 Alex 3 runs // 260 Beast Tribe // 13,600 Law // >=20 Heavensward Maps -> Ore (Divine Water)

200 Alex 4 runs // 260 Beast Tribe // 13,600 Law // 20000 Allied Seal -> Seeds (Allagan Catalyst)

Total: 800 Alex // 1040 Beast tokens // 27,200 Law // 27,200 Poetics // >=40 HW maps // 40000 Allied Seal

AND 16 total HQ items which require specialization.

That's insane. I get that they may want a "long term goal" but this is just mindless farm. Blegh.

[Orchidias]

Giving us something to do shouldn't mean putting in such a mindless grind for absolutely no reward in the end- they could have made this more interesting by adding better lore, better *methods* to obtain what was needed. Instead we have repetitive grinding that is going to kill anyone's desire to keep going. Only people with the time/in-game money/networks of people to help can actually make any headway into this, and this is just the first step. Even the original zodiac path wasn't this hellish and that was a painful grind on its own.

[Airget]

That's the point. It's to give us something to do while there is lack of content, thus making is as lengthy as possible. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to.

Nah, there is a reasonable way to do it, but it definitely feels overtuned. 16 HQ items, compare that to the first set of relic, you only need 1 of each craft HQ, yet on the first stage they just went ham and made it 16, that's rather excessive. There is a right way to do things, and honestly, if they just cut down the requirements in half it wouldn't look as daunting as it currently does, which is shame.

[Miscreant]

If the Relic is the ONLY thing you have to do in the game right now then you are doing something wrong.

I can't take this seriously when it comes from someone who hasn't even cleared Ravana yet, let alone Thordan or Savage etc.

Because of the massive lack of new content since the launch of 3.0 a lot of people actually only have the Relic left to do. Lets not forget that a lot of people have been looking forward to this quest-line since it was announced with hopes we would get something similar to the start of the 2.0 relic quest-line (i80-i90).

Everything about this is a let down and the 2.0 Relic quest is already vastly superior.

Congratulations on releasing another piece of watered down 2.0 content disguised as 3.0 content SE.

[Aryalandi]

You people white knighting it

I'm a Paladin, I white knight /everything/
Also to have a pretty thing is never a waste of time. If i spend a few months working twards a weapon or armor piece that i may well glamor to everything that comes afterwards forever i would call that fairly worthwhile.

[Wolfman88]

That's the point. It's to give us something to do while there is lack of content, thus making is as lengthy as possible. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to.

This is correct. This weapon is meant to be a reward for activities done on a daily basis by most players. Although the cynicism in this post may give off the wrong vibe lol.

[WinterLuna]

Because of the massive lack of new content since the launch of 3.0 a lot of people actually only have the Relic left to do.

Do you have all classes to 60? Are you a master crafter? Have you completed every achievement in game? Are you max PvP rank? Do you have all of the TT cards? Is your chocobo rank max? Do you have Kirin and all mounts in the game? Have you maxed beast tribe quests?

Just because you personally don't want to do something in the game doesn't mean there's nothing left to do.

[seraf]

I'm just going to go the 620 Alex Normal runs method because that will take me a week or less to do.