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  1. #51
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    Siorai Aduaidh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    CON > WHM
    THM > BLM

    Let's not kid ourselves.
    I'm guessing it's the other way around:

    THM > WHM
    CON > BLM

    As all class skills will be re-evaluated, our best bet is to go by the names and general concepts of the classes:

    Conjurer: One who summons. This is a class heavily focused on elemental power, so BLM seems to be the natural outgrowth.

    Thaumaturge: A performer of miracles or magic feats - often associated with healing. FFXIV put a life-death/astral-umbral twist on Thaumaturgery, but people tend to only focus on the death side of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    I'm guessing it's the other way around:

    THM > WHM
    CON > BLM

    As all class skills will be re-evaluated, our best bet is to go by the names and general concepts of the classes:

    Conjurer: One who summons. This is a class heavily focused on elemental power, so BLM seems to be the natural outgrowth.

    Thaumaturge: A performer of miracles or magic feats - often associated with healing. FFXIV put a life-death/astral-umbral twist on Thaumaturgery, but people tend to only focus on the death side of it.
    Who have curega1,2 + raise 1,2,3?
    (Thm can't even aoe heal).
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Seriously that someone said the White Mage outfit is from FFXI?

    The world is doomed. DOOMED.
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    As all class skills will be re-evaluated, our best bet is to go by the names and general concepts of the classes:
    The most important actions have already been re-evaluated, and guess where the focus is as far as healing spells go....
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    Ceons Asmeia
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    It would make more sense for archer to become like a corsair or a job that uses a gun so it will be in the similar category rather than from DPS > SUPPORT.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceons View Post
    It would make more sense for archer to become like a corsair or a job that uses a gun so it will be in the similar category rather than from DPS > SUPPORT.
    We already have musketeers class (spelling).
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceons View Post
    It would make more sense for archer to become like a corsair or a job that uses a gun so it will be in the similar category rather than from DPS > SUPPORT.
    Except Musketeer is already a class, we just don't have it yet. Archer is bard, the picture pretty much confirms it.
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Also...isn't the Dragoon in the exact same pose as Kain in one of his Amano artworks?
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    What's the point of changing the classes to be like WHM and BLM? Why not just replace them entirely, lol.

    Devs don't understand anything.

    (By the way, Im not suggesting they replace them. I just think it's stupid to make a THM into a BLM and keep calling it a THM.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Well the job system exists so, having jobs for Conjurer and Thaumaturge would generally be the point. I mean if they weren't adding in the Job system, sure I could see what you're saying but that's not the case. They shifted the classes so that people would have a better idea about who is going to be what I imagine.

    I think the Devs do understand a lot, a lot more than you probably do considering they're the ones actually creating this content.

    They're not making Thaum into a Black Mage, they're (likely) giving Thaum Black Mage as a job. There's a difference here. Yes they started shifting the skills so that Conjurer favors healing and Thaumaturge favors damage but they are still Conjurer and Thaumaturge. Black Mage and White Mage are completely different.
    Saying "they are giving THM the BLM job" is just a roundabout way of saying "THM becomes BLM."

    Thus THM BECOMES BLM.

    So what's the point of THM? Especially if they are also changing THM skills so that they can justify it becoming a BLM. Therefore THM will already be BLM before you even apply the BLM job to it.

    You see how pointless it all is?

    I'm trying to connect the dots for you.
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