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  1. #61
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    Dante_V's Avatar
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Whether or not MT is "harder" than OT is completely fight dependent and 100% opinion. MT T7 was brain dead easy. MT on t9 was a different beast. Overall tanking in general isn't very hard at all imo no matter which role you take.
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  2. #62
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    So a fight that happens in spurts benefits jobs who can unload in short duration spurts?

    Who knew.
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  3. #63
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Riki_Namu View Post
    Except stance dancing isn't a requirement of tanking end game content. You could sit in Tank stance the whole fight and still clear just fine. Provided you aren't carrying dps and the OT.
    Because I love my Wrath stacks and the Parry bonus they grant.

    /byeFelicia
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  4. #64
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    xvshanevx's Avatar
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    Definitelynot Godbert
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 80
    This is nothing new, and simply people just QQing. Xeno and his static were doing MRD Turn 9 runs before 3.0 dropped, back when people though PLD was the definitive tank class. Although, I do agree that PLD needs some help atm.
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  5. #65
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    Chizumi Mooncleave
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Saw Xeno's 8 warrior Ravana ex video today, whats everyone's opinion?
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  6. #66
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ArkNova View Post
    Saw Xeno's 8 warrior Ravana ex video today, whats everyone's opinion?
    It was tuned for i150 and the 1.5X vulnerability stages exceptionally benefit bursty classes. You skip most mechanics because of the overgearing, regardless of comp, Ravana literally stops attacking for about 1/3 the fight, and Ravana's HP pool is a joke as a whole.

    Props to them for doing something interesting but in terms of balance or anything else related to WAR? It's really not a big deal. I can't stress enough it was tuned for i150~
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 11-30-2015 at 10:09 AM.

  7. #67
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    Shodeku Hitsuma
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    It was tuned for i150 and the 1.5X vulnerability stages exceptionally benefit bursty classes. You skip most mechanics because of the overgearing, regardless of comp, Ravana literally stops attacking for about 1/3 the fight, and Ravana's HP pool is a joke as a whole.

    Props to them for doing something interesting but in terms of balance or anything else related to WAR? It's really not a big deal. I can't stress enough it was tuned for i150~
    you know the more i hear comments like this without seeing videos of similar feets done with the other tank jobs the harder it gets to agree with comments like this

    or people could actually go out and prove people wrong and actually go do it themselves with another 8 man tank comp.
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  8. #68
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    So 1 group does it; kudos to them. Now if Pug groups could easily pull this off, then I'd see a rebalance issue. All I see is OP grasping at straws to revamp the Warrior OP'd issue for the 1000th time.

    #nochill
    and they're Japanese players with Gordian Axes! Not impressed and I almost expected it.

    Also the reason why war can even compete with dps for damage is because of the lack of need for fending accessories coupled with the insanely high dps to keep subs. If you had a war in full fending vs a dps in full slaying the numbers would probably be more accurate to the jobs that they play as..

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    If WAR needs anything dialed back a bit its not their DPS, its their infinite TP and Equilibrium's ridiculous (even by Xeno's admission) 60s cooldown. Those are things even a lot of WAR mains can agree on, but being able to DPS down arguably midcore/casual content? Stuff like this just makes non-WAR mains look petty. Stahp.
    Personally I think war is perfect for HW but the other jobs aren't. Its a role reversal of the 2.0 tanks. PLD and DRK need a tp boost. For example; Sheltron gives 50 tp on successful block and Dark Mind + Dark Dance gives 20 tp on successful parry (remove the 20% evasion for this).
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  9. #69
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    and they're Japanese players with Gordian Axes! Not impressed and I almost expected it.
    Where is the 8-dragoon with Gordian Spear video, then ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Also the reason why war can even compete with dps
    That's exactly what shouldn't happen. WAR should not be able to compete with real DPS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Personally I think war is perfect for HW but the other jobs aren't.
    No, WAR is not "perfect". Unless you think that being able to do everything efficiently besides healing others is "perfect".
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 11-30-2015 at 05:16 PM.

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    Graylle Celestia
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 70
    WAR is not competing with any competent DPS.
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