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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    No, you'll just use another cooldown for that situation, or just mark the one monster that you can't position in front of you so that the team either kill it first or control it (Sleep, Bind, etc...).
    Awareness is still a wasted slot, compared to Second Win, Internal Release, Convalescence, Provoke and Flash.
    I'll take Featherfoot over Awareness unless I know I'm going to need it with RI at a certain pull, but I'd usually take Awareness over Second Wind in a speedrun, and either over Flash if I don't have serious AoE monsters with me (and not enough safety to go Deliverance briefly for TP) or there's some particular mechanic increasing its relative value. That's just me though. And that's enough talk about something we both know is crap either way. >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Still, on the very low chance that SE really decides to change PLD, they won't make so much adjustment, so it's better to keep our suggestions short.
    Partly because this is for players more than SE, who I don't expect to take even the simplest parts of it, I prefer completion over brevity. To me, that finally looks about complete. There are slight buffs I'd like to make to WAR and especially DRK to balance it, but that's a good looking PLD in my mind. Reordering a bit though, to put the most significant first, etc.
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    Graylle Celestia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I look at that list and only think "none of this matters."

    Seriously... waking sleeping monsters? Copperbell Mine and Ravana...? If the Oppressor is close enough to death that you need to stop DPS on it, you should also have no need to generate any more aggro. Having issues hitting every mob with OP? Shouldn't you take your own advice regarding RI and just position properly? Even the only practical point about flashing while pacified is only relevant when you are MTing and healers / fairy doesn't instantly remove pacification.

    I used to cross clash Flash. The only time I ever used it was on the older dungeon pulls -- stuff like Brayflox HM and Haukke Manor HM where the pulls really were massive. None of the new dungeons have pulls that Overpower can't reliably cover -- and when I pull dungeons, I pull everything I can up until a wall.

    So it just sits on your bar doing nothing for like 99% of situations. In the meanwhile, Awareness actually does something. It doesn't do much, but it does something. Potentially smoothing out spike damage during moments of healer stress is a lot more valuable and relevant to common content than whatever Flash brings to the table. Preventing wayward RI crits when you are forced to dodge AoEs while having 10+ mobs constantly spreading around you because of collision is a common situation unless you slow roll dungeons. At the very least, at least Awareness is something you can constantly use off CD for a minimal benefit as opposed to the incredibly situational uses of Flash.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    I look at that list and only think "none of this matters."
    Right, none of this matters because "I'M A WAAAR, I don't care about anything besides doing more damage ! screw strategy !"
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    If the Oppressor is close enough to death that you need to stop DPS on it, you should also have no need to generate any more aggro.
    I'm pretty sure you're still taking hits, so healers keep gaining enmity by curing you...
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    Having issues hitting every mob with OP? Shouldn't you take your own advice regarding RI and just position properly?
    Ok, so let me get this straight. You try to convinve me that Awareness is wonderful with Raw Intuition, implying that I can't position every monster in front of me, and then dismiss Flash because I should always be able to do it ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    Even the only practical point about flashing while pacified is only relevant when you are MTing and healers / fairy doesn't instantly remove pacification.
    Yes, because healers and fairies have frequently far more important things to do than denying you few precious points of DPS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    I used to cross clash Flash. The only time I ever used it was on the older dungeon pulls -- stuff like Brayflox HM and Haukke Manor HM where the pulls really were massive.
    Oh, you're right, too bad we never do this things anymore...oh, wait, we do we we queue for duty roulette
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    So it just sits on your bar doing nothing for like 99% of situations. In the meanwhile, Awareness actually does something.
    Again, if you dismiss Flash because you can keep monsters in front of you, don't try to convince me that Awareness is useful. And remember than poppint Raw Intuition in that situation is a waste. If you need to mitigates attacks from all direction, just use another cooldown.
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