Thordan ex sucks.

[Kurogaea]

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I never created a game in my life, but one thing I know is that a boss fight needs to be done right to be challenging and fun. For example: Boss down to 80%, seen it dive bomb and inflict heavy damage on the tank at certain intervals, then it disappears, oh theres a mark on my head, wipe. That's not how you make a boss. The boss shouldn't be a cake walk per say, but every boss should have to introduce a move in a way you'll be able to react to in the future as it will be reused but with a twist so you'd learn and get more experienced with the concept. That's what I assumed normal dungeons were doing, but no, its all new and hectic in raid fights with expected deaths and thrown in mechanics. If you build the player accordingly with previous fights, they'd be inclined to test themselves with more fights.

If you keep throwing entirely different fights you pull out your #%$ people are gonna get discouraged, and little @#%$heads are gonna complain about people not knowing anything, and they don't know anything because it just came out. What SE did is lazy and if they cared for casuals they wouldn't of came this far to make it this way, if they cared for hardcore players, savage mode would be extended to dungeons where they'd learn hardened mechanics subtly but still pretty difficult. and when they fight a raid boss next on the list, it'd be challenging and tough, but familiar to them. Just my opinion anyway. :/

[Nestama]

I do not agree with nerfing content because players refuse to figure out or accept that they might be the main cause of wipes. I would suggest becoming a lot more strict as a party leader, though. If someone makes it very obvious they don't know what they're doing (even after one wipe), give 'em the boot. You're trying to learn the later phases, not the beginning. If this marks you as being elitist to them, so be it. That just means you have one less baddie (liar) to deal with.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

You have void ark for a reason, there's barely any challenging content as it is.

[Paladinleeds]

I do not agree with nerfing content because players refuse to figure out or accept that they might be the main cause of wipes. I would suggest becoming a lot more strict as a party leader, though. If someone makes it very obvious they don't know what they're doing (even after one wipe), give 'em the boot. You're trying to learn the later phases, not the beginning. If this marks you as being elitist to them, so be it. That just means you have one less baddie (liar) to deal with.

I'd also recommend blacklisting them at this point too. And if you're REALLY angry at them, tell the entire world how much of a liar they are (provided it doesn't get you banned in the process). The community needs to be more aligned and less full of liars.

[wicked-one]

I forsee the next sadistic act which is usually called the "REAR LICK GRIND"

Thordan will be quite a Challenge for the average player.

i dunno if my static´s healers need to adapt, or had a bad day, but considering most of us being i200+ the damage we get is insane. the AoE´s the Phase2 Knights make oneshot us at some point, i don´t see this done by pugs anytime near.

this is clearly what Yoshi stated - weapons for raid teams to help them with A3+

Sure it will be done soon by random PF groups, as everything, but on the other hand i really find it a quite well designed and cool fight.

Thou I don´t see this done in i190 as requiered...

[Sylve]

half of them you even encountered through the Heavensward MSQ

I recall Yoshi stating they did this on purpose so that people were inherently familiar with boss mechanics before they faced the boss itself

[Jetstream_Fox]

I don't know what to tell you. Stop PFing it and try to get your static to clear it. If you can't do that, then I guess continue PFing it while befriending those who understand the fight and have a drive to down it. Eventually, you'll find your 8.

I absolutely hate that every time something needs to be cleared the "get a static" and "stop using pf/df" lines come up the whole process of finding people to play with is entirely dependant on your community. You can't do one without the other, but it seems like no one in a static understands this. Not everyone has the same accessibility to play during hours where content is likely to be cleared, I jump between 2 and 3rd shift and can't commit to ridiculous static times, or have any desire to drag out my laptop to download whatever voip service you're static uses or download whatever parse software you require, ALL for one aspect of content.

[Senstara]

Difficulty is good, I've been rather disappointed in most of the new contents difficulty. The dungeons cleared without really knowing any of the 'Tactics' but due to it being the same stuff from a collection of previous dungeons the ability to auto adept and 1 shot the bosses was as shame. Same with Void Ark, one wipe on the 2nd to last boss and that was it no one knew the tactics, full clear minimal effort.

I'm glad something is going to be a challenge, besides Alexander Savage.

[KaedrianLiang]

Remember yoshi-p's comment after the ThorEx reveal? "this is the original difficulty we had in mind for MSQ."

I like ThorEX's difficulty, bleed for your loot.

[DragonSlayer45]

I absolutely hate that every time something needs to be cleared the "get a static" and "stop using pf/df" the whole process of finding people to play with is entirely dependent on your community. You can't do one without the other, but it seems like no one in a static understands this. Not everyone has the same accessibility to play during hours where content is likely to be cleared.

I think you are misinterpreting what I wrote, but whatever. I don't have a static either because I don't have the time to dedicate to one anymore, but that's besides the point. I was merely speaking of OP's situation because if you read his first post, he already has one.

Not everyone will be able to clear everything immediately when it releases, and if you want to clear it, then you need to put in the same amount of time and effort as everyone else does. The fight doesn't need a nerf. People just need to learn how to work together.