Diadem Gear > (Alex Norm / Savage, Crafting, PVP, VA, Extreme primals, tome) gear?

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

So, in short terms, you want some gear to be the best for two consecutive patches. You want raid gear to stay the best for half a year before having to replace it with... new raid gear.

You should start to wrap your mind around the idea that raid gear is the best only for the current patch before having alternatives or better replacements the next one, or you'll be disappointed every time an odd numbered patch comes out.

Not everyone cares about big numbers on their shiny armor. Some people do it for the feeling of achievement and the battle itself.
It's sad that I have to explain that to a raider.

The ratio for effort:reward is not balanced. AS3 is a kick in the nuts and takes so much time investment, coordination, effort and can demoralize statics easily. If a fight is going to be this hard, at least the reward should feel worth of all that sweat. Making it worthless on the next patch after a few months is not the way to make it feel like it was worth it. Also, the battles are no better than coil for the majority of people so if it wasn't for the gear, I bet you not alot of people would even bother just for the fights. There were a lot of threads back then, from raiders complaining about how Alex Savage fights were not exciting and actually boring. I agree with them, I couldn't stomach AS3 anymore after a while. We were one of the few statics that survived the statics murders. I'm actually surprised we did, because we were getting demoralized, too, but we kept going at it until we finally beat it.

[zosia]

materia meldable raid gear

eso gear will also have sockets, try again.

[rappa]

materia meldable raid gear

Some diadem pink 210 gear are like you melded an esoteric item or gordian.

[Felis]

eso gear will also have sockets, try again.

Sure with eso?
i think the token gear after eso will have it. But still, you will not can put materia into diadem pink gear.
So, token/raid gear with materia is better than diadem gear because of less random. Then people do diadem to farm points for materias or gears for alt jobs.

[rappa]

Sure with eso?
i think the token gear after eso will have it. But still, you will not can put materia into diadem pink gear.
So, token/raid gear with materia is better than diadem gear because of less random. Then people do diadem to farm points for materias or gears for alt jobs.

From Patch 3.2, crafted equipment will become more powerful that what it has been up until now. Furthermore, accessories will be implemented at the same time as the high-tier equipment that can be created by crafters. Additionally, materia slots will be added to raid equipment and the equipment that can be purchased with the various tomestones, so you’ll be able to add materia to boost the sub-stats that you prefer.

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Probably with Esoteric gear will be unable, but the next gear is right.

[zosia]

Sure with eso?
i think the token gear after eso will have it. But still, you will not can put materia into diadem pink gear.
So, token/raid gear with materia is better than diadem gear because of less random. Then people do diadem to farm points for materias or gears for alt jobs.

No, absolutely not. Unless they completely change the materia system, those sockets will not mean much at all. SE also hinted at the notion you might not be able to pentameld raid gear. Essentially, you will have regular melding, just no over melding.

that means you get 1-3 materia depending on the gear slot you are melding. Three materia is not going to make up for these large advantages showing up on diadem gear.

[DenebPunkin]

Why is this an issue. More ways to get stuff is always good... even if you wont be doing much with the new stuff 0_0.

[Arkenne]

Well...

- Diadem gear is a roulette of pieces... really...
- The gears are not only an RNG for stats but also for the class.
- On a simple DF run even, you can only greed for each piece so you will be ALWAYS competing against 7 other people.
- On top of that, the gears can have good stats, yea, but not necesarily better than a piece you already have.
- Another matter is that you can't really calculate a BiS planning yourself around them, since the stats are all unknown and random, specially if you don't have them yet.
- Its a matter of RNGed-stats vs Known-stats.
- Its been said that in patch 3.2 blue gear will have materia slots enabled, so even if The Diadem were to get better things even further ahead it will have no way to be improved. This adjustment... may also fit for the already existing raid gear... but I dunno.

[Kallera]

We needed an alternative to 1 method of endgame far more than the need for egos to be stroked for 6 months.

As it is, getting that sort of gear(which is rng, so BiS will prove especially elusive) Along with the look you like, means a LOT of time will be spent in Diadem for many people.

Thus only means Materia. Along with the stats it represents, will need an overhaul if its usage is to be appreciated, seeing stats not have to be such a pittance of difference per materia would be welcome.

[rappa]

Well...

- Diadem gear is a roulette of pieces... really...
- The gears are not only an RNG for stats but also for the class.
- On a simple DF run even, you can only greed for each piece so you will be ALWAYS competing against 7 other people.
- On top of that, the gears can have good stats, yea, but not necesarily better than a piece you already have.
- Another matter is that you can't really calculate a BiS planning yourself around them, since the stats are all unknown and random, specially if you don't have them yet.
- Its a matter of RNGed-stats vs Known-stats.
- Its been said that in patch 3.2 blue gear will have materia slots enabled, so even if The Diadem were to get better things even further ahead it will have no way to be improved. This adjustment... may also fit for the already existing raid gear... but I dunno.

In 3.2, Diadem gear will be outdated. Best RNG in diadem gear could let you get more dps during "alexander savage 2" the first days after release.

We needed an alternative to 1 method of endgame far more than the need for egos to be stroked for 6 months.

SE insteads of add a new alternative, convert Diadem in the "unique alternative".
What is the point people don't get? Diadem gear could be better than esoterics and gordian.

So you don't go to Alex savage to kill a boss, you will prefer to take a ship, visit Diadem and grind until you get the item. Same timesink, but the reward could be better. Also, if you don't get an improve, you still get trash gear to turn in, get Materia V, crafting materia or others things.
You put both styles of raid in a balance. If you don't kill the raid boss, you will get nothing. If you enter Diadem, at least a few coins you get to trade.