Duty Finder can't find me a battle? 1 hour wait and beyond.....................

[Mastanight]

There are other challenging fights at lvl 60, why not do those?

People were pretty into fcob when it was relevant. The players who were interested have beaten it many many many times by now. There's no challenge to it anymore.

By the time I get to there (level 60, Endgame content) new content is out, and everyone says the same thing, "We all did that stuff months ago" ??????? beyond me

[Vidu]

Beside thte fact that the gear ist outdated... Coil isnt something you wanna do using the DF - I did that back when it was new in DF (at anytime I was bored, after having cleared the turns with my static) and it was horrible. You dont only challenge the boss, most of the time you also challenge 7 adds (called your comrads-in-arms by the game to distracted you). Thats part of the reason everyone is doing it snyched now - some of those battles are, indeed, a challenge. But not a challenge for the DF where you might run into people who hasnt ever seen the fight before and who need to LEARN - 90 minutes (or let it be 120...) isnt enough for that most of the time. Except for the first 4 turns I'd say: Coil just isnt DF-content. And it was never meant to be after all - the only reason you can tackle these fights in DF now is that they've been nerfed down so much... I'm sorry but you're a bit late to the party here... and no, its not about the two months-break, if thats any comfort to you: You wouldnt have cleared Final Coil 6 months back with DF and your about 1 and a half year late for First&Second Coil

The only advice I can give you: Try to find like minded people, build a network, create a linkshell... if you wanna do this content as it was supposed to be done: Find 7 other players to learn and progress with you...

[PArcher]

By the time I get to there (level 60, Endgame content) new content is out, and everyone says the same thing, "We all did that stuff months ago" ??????? beyond me

Because the serious people about this stuff HAVE done it months ago. I've run Ravana EX IDK how many times the past 4 months. Beaten A1S 15 times (15 weeks of clears), A2S 13 times and finally am progressing on A4S after three A3S clears.

Coil was farmed to death in their relevant 2.x patches. Most of the fights you can 4-man without much difficulty, and 8-man unsynced isnt a challenge at all.

[Zeonx]

I never done coil thought it was a waste of time, which I was right in the end, the thing has story yes but gear is crap and I didn't have to deal with the drama of people fighting.

I would of liked to do it, though I read on forums about people fighting and blaming and going at each others necks even leaving the run so nobody could finish it.

[Malevicton]

By the time I get to there (level 60, Endgame content) new content is out, and everyone says the same thing, "We all did that stuff months ago" ??????? beyond me

There's still plenty of time before the next savage comes out.

Even if you for some reason really can't get to 60 by then: skip some stuff. This is a vertical mmo. When the next raid comes out everything from the previous one will be invalidated and the new entry gear will be handed to you on a platter. It's practically impossible to fall behind in this game.

I never done coil thought it was a waste of time, which I was right in the end, the thing has story yes but gear is crap and I didn't have to deal with the drama of people fighting.

I would of liked to do it, though I read on forums about people fighting and blaming and going at each others necks even leaving the run so nobody could finish it.

You don't do any content that people on the forums complain about, even if it interests you? What does that even leave?

[PArcher]

I would of liked to do it, though I read on forums about people fighting and blaming and going at each others necks even leaving the run so nobody could finish it.

Thats because most of the people learning it now expect to be carried, either by their gear, other people, or both. They don't want to really learn, just get the win to say they did it, but are too cheap to just buy a clear.

[MochaLatte]

Yeah I wanted to try Coil 1 and Shiva EX but the queue times were 100+ minutes before I gave up.

Can't clear Shiva and continue my quest. In PF people are farming Shiva, not newbie friendly to help get a clear.

[Zeonx]

There's still plenty of time before the next savage comes out.

Even if you for some reason really can't get to 60 by then: skip some stuff. This is a vertical mmo. When the next raid comes out everything from the previous one will be invalidated and the new entry gear will be handed to you on a platter. It's practically impossible to fall behind in this game.



You don't do any content that people on the forums complain about, even if it interests you? What does that even leave?

Oh I do play the content though you're right, Forums are a big reason I didn't play coil, too many people complained back then, that's when I made a choice to not even bother with it.

I am pretty sure others did the same as me, just skipped it and some people tried probably until iron works gear came out and just decided not to even bother.

I am pretty sure the story was good but coils story should of never been a side thing where people would of just skipped it, I think people would of then had to go through it to get it done.

Now its just a piece of content that's worthless, back then maybe not but now cmon.

[Azazua_azura]

Thats because most of the people learning it now expect to be carried, either by their gear, other people, or both. They don't want to really learn, just get the win to say they did it, but are too cheap to just buy a clear.

i can see where this guys is coming from. In ff11 i did dynamis and sky simply to have content to do. I wasn't doing it for the shinies. And since WoW ppl ONLY do content for the shinies, not everyone starts at launch. I had personal issues preventing me from playing coil when it was relivent, and and those same issues are now why i have a new psn ID and had to start over.

First of all run buying and selling in my personal opinion stupid, cheapens the game and the community.

And second, content becoming irrelivent, outdated, <insert comment> is a player created concept. Just because you don't need anything from it, doesn't mean other don't. Just because you "farmed it to death" new players haven't touched it.

content relevency is subjective to the players, if your new the content is new to you, its irritating as a gamer to read comments like that, they come off as smug, like everyone playing has played since launch. That is and never the case fir any mmo.

[Blood-Aki]

Thats because most of the people learning it now expect to be carried, either by their gear, other people, or both. They don't want to really learn, just get the win to say they did it, but are too cheap to just buy a clear.

It isn't a matter of being cheap, you shouldn't need to pay for any clears, that is for lazy people who truly do not want to learn anything, I even mentioned this in another topic Jps do not ever charge people to clear content, they teach and help them. This is an NA Scam that continues to work.

But things like Coil and Tower runs are all optinal content for extra story, Because they have no other use for the main game people don't bother and skip over them. and are far less likely to want to do them, even if they haven't finished.