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  1. #11
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    ZanzhizExaverion's Avatar
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    Zanzhiz Exaverion
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Friend pointed out to me that the note says Dungeons and Trials

    Perhaps it DOESN'T apply to raids? Can Raids be ANY Job Composition? Still need confirmation.
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  2. #12
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    Storm Rider
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 60
    This is not something that should be implemented. Basically it says wait we have a class that is unbalanced so lets punish the other people for not bringing them. Or oops we have designed an unbalance fight instead of echo reverse echo. Was anyone really asking for this.

    This is an acceptable change, but at the end of an expansion cycle or at the start of a new expansion. No reason to punish people in the middle of a cycle.

    Also why don't the notes have the nerve to say what the penalties will be. If you are going to put a nerf in own it. Say X% for X stacking. They have the damn math.
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  3. #13
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    Zanzhiz Exaverion
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    Gonna bump this for the day.
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  4. #14
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Yeah, we're going to definitely be talking about this tomorrow. We have three melee, and if this forces one of them to go caster we're going to be screwed for a week or two, maybe more.
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Paladin Lv 60
    20 bucks says they hardblocking ranged stackers.

    Class stacking/ranged stacking is a problem in most games because movement heavy fights favor ranged dps.
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    Apathy Emerald
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    20 bucks says they hardblocking ranged stackers.

    Class stacking/ranged stacking is a problem in most games because movement heavy fights favor ranged dps.
    Did we really need it here? Rangeds aren't really favored since all of them are casters now and they're already doing a lot less damage than melees. If they really wanted to change something, groups with 3 ranged needed some help with the dps, not a penalty.
    And anyway i haven't seen a party without melees since lolTitan HM so i really can't see where this is coming from.
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  7. #17
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    Feli Aiko
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Savage isnt in DF, so it shouldn't apply there. It would apply for DF listed content that you can't enter in solo (e.g. Trials).
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  8. #18
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    Deneb Algiedi
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I am surprised blackmage and summoner are considered ranged dps and not mage dps. They already use different LBs. While both are technically ranged dps, their utility and damage type is completely different.

    It just seems strange to me SMN and BLM aren't grouped on their own.
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  9. #19
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    Russell Westbrook
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Im not sure you need confirmation since it specifies in duty finder and Alex Savage is not in the duty finder.
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  10. #20
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Why would it specify duty finder? You have no control of comp in duty finder. Way to get punished for it dumping your group with three dragoons.
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