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    Kind of a catch 22 situation here. They release Minfilia and people say they aren't releasing male sets. They say they will release even male/female scions sets and people complain that the male sets aren't unique. Its not like they can release the scions new sets since most of the scions aren't likely to be appearing any time soon let alone all in 3.1 and its quite likely Minfilia will be getting a new set too.

    So what is the solution. Just not release a Minfilia set?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Kind of a catch 22 situation here. They release Minfilia and people say they aren't releasing male sets. They say they will release even male/female scions sets and people complain that the male sets aren't unique. Its not like they can release the scions new sets since most of the scions aren't likely to be appearing any time soon let alone all in 3.1 and its quite likely Minfilia will be getting a new set too.

    So what is the solution. Just not release a Minfilia set?
    The solution is to release unique male sets.

    But personally I'm happy that they're going to release male scion sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Kind of a catch 22 situation here. They release Minfilia and people say they aren't releasing male sets. They say they will release even male/female scions sets and people complain that the male sets aren't unique. Its not like they can release the scions new sets since most of the scions aren't likely to be appearing any time soon let alone all in 3.1 and its quite likely Minfilia will be getting a new set too.

    So what is the solution. Just not release a Minfilia set?
    The solution is to see the bigger picture. The Minfilia-issue is only one example showcasing how, like in some seasonal items, female characters are once again getting a unique, exclusively-made outfit that is not available otherwise; while at the same time male characters are, it seems, being given repurposed gear pieces that had already been in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    The solution is to see the bigger picture. The Minfilia-issue is only one example showcasing how, like in some seasonal items, female characters are once again getting a unique, exclusively-made outfit that is not available otherwise; while at the same time male characters are, it seems, being given repurposed gear pieces that had already been in the game.
    ...Minfilia's set was already in the game too? Putting the outfits the rest of the Scions wear and Minfilia's takes the same out of work, so there is no bias related to development time going around there. The issue is that one is a new model for the players, while male PCs don't get unique outfit, not that females got an "exclusively-made outfit". But yes, they could have easily added Cid's outfit, or Raubahn's or whoever's outfit that is unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    ...Minfilia's set was already in the game too?
    Yeah, ok, I might not have used the best words there. My fault, sorry. (It's quite early here and I got up waaaaay too early today.) But yes - the point is the fact that the outfit itself can't be pieced together from gear we can acquire as of now, so in that sense it's exclusive. As opposed to the others already mentioned above. Again, sorry for the bad wording. @.@
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    The solution is to see the bigger picture. The Minfilia-issue is only one example showcasing how, like in some seasonal items, female characters are once again getting a unique, exclusively-made outfit that is not available otherwise; while at the same time male characters are, it seems, being given repurposed gear pieces that had already been in the game.
    There is a bigger picture sure but since the Minfilia set was directly referenced as an example of imbalance then its relevant that they are stating that they will be releasing the other scions 'cosplay' sets. Again, since people are bringing up the Minfilia set in the first place, its a fair question to ask if which is better? Cause with this case, which was brought up in the first place, even having male scion sets isn't going to placate people. Should they just case should they just not release any scion 'cosplay' sets at all since Minfilia is the only unique scion set?

    They clearly didn't have time to give all the Scions unique sets in 2.0 which is why I suspect we are starting to see them get them in 3.X. However since none of the other male scions are around apart from Urianger and he doesn't have a unique set either, do they just not release anything?

    Again, Im not saying there isn't an issue here. I'm just saying that you cant shot down any attempt at balancing things particularly since these sets are undyeable in the first place and designed as cosplay pieces. They are just adjusting a existing gear set to fit alternate racial frames.
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    Last edited by Belhi; 11-07-2015 at 04:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Kind of a catch 22 situation here. They release Minfilia and people say they aren't releasing male sets. They say they will release even male/female scions sets and people complain that the male sets aren't unique. Its not like they can release the scions new sets since most of the scions aren't likely to be appearing any time soon let alone all in 3.1 and its quite likely Minfilia will be getting a new set too.

    So what is the solution. Just not release a Minfilia set?
    Make Minfillia's outfit unisex? There's nothing especially feminine about her clothing outside of the color, so I see no reason males couldn't wear it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    Make Minfillia's outfit unisex? There's nothing especially feminine about her clothing outside of the color, so I see no reason males couldn't wear it as well.
    Perhaps but if I understand it right, these particular sets are 'cosplay' sets rather than just fashion glamour sets. After all, didn't they say the hair is a wig rather than an actual hairstyle? Having said that it would be pretty interesting to see some players male versions of Minfilia.

    I supposed we wait and see what they do with the other sets. Clearly if they made the male version unisex there would be an issue. I think the intent of what the outfit is for has some importance in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    it would be pretty interesting to see some players male versions of Minfilia.
    I can see it now - a line of like 50 male Roegadyn dressed as Minfilia. This needs to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I can see it now - a line of like 50 male Roegadyn dressed as Minfilia. This needs to happen.
    Male Roes are the only ones among the guys with racks big enough to fit that top.
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