And again, another speculation about the warriors of darkness = old warriors of light

[-Krypyonite-]

just another speculation thread, could the warriors of darkness be truly the ones that louisoux sent 5 years forward in the cartenau? they have always been refered as a team, not only one.

somehow fallen into darkness this whole time, and it were the ascians who made people forget who they were?

i've done the coil storyline but never really seen anything in specific of what made everyone forget them?

so following this, we, the WoL could be the only one returning, and now derplander and the remaining crew are actually, our old ''mates'' ?

is it too silly? i'm sorry... i just felt like it could be a thing an wanted to know opinions.

[Kallera]

Well, if you wanted to play into an idea that "we stole the destiny of Derplander by becoming the WoL and aren't actual people who were saved at Cartenaeu", you could go that route. but that would be a hell of a swerve.

If such a premise were done, it could be that Hydelyn rejected the ones that Louisioux saved made people forget what happened. then when several years later Eorzea was still in need of a hero, She popped a being into existence, based on the original Warrior of light myth.

I'm sure anyone would be ticked if I knew some impostor was walking around claiming their service to their country.

Thing is, none of us know Derplander, so how would he be our buddy?

[-Krypyonite-]

not quite what i meant, my bad, must not have explained properly.


think like this, we know that suposedly We, the WoL were ported into the future, but its true that they have been stated as ''warriors of light'', wich is plural, more than one.

if thats so, hwo come only ''us'' have come back, it is a fact that everybody including ''us'' has lost the memory, or simply its another person. BUT afterall, this new 2.0 WoL is either a new character (like you said, not one of those louie saved) OR it can be ONE of the Warriors of light, making ''us'' one of the derplanders old friend. Truth is ''we'' don't know anything from the past.

i hope i have explained better now.

Afterall, in the trailer there is someone that says ''so you are the warrior of light'' to me it sounds a bit sarcastic, can it be WoD saying it?

[Kallera]

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Stating that we don't know the past is a odd idea. Considering there are some that played that past. It could be that we don't know Derplander, or what he was doing in Carteneau "With the main host" compared to what we were doing in Mor Dhona.(As in, it was a large battle, and multiple people were taken.) But to say we don't know the past anymore calls into question our identity, or even if we are "human".

I don't think the lore treats it as we are the only ones to come back, so much as we are the only ones to live up to the legend. I'm sure there's more detail (or a correction) on this though.

[-Krypyonite-]

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i had honestly never thought of it like that before, but i decided to make another alt with a friend and noticed these dialogs in specific (during the feast in uldah even)

and it was said ''the warriorS of light '' and it tickled.

[Frederick22]

Well I would agreed on Kypy in some points.

Yes Warrios of Lightis on plural, so I could not be just us.
If we are speaking about the legacy point of view. I would say that we were not the only warriors of light, back there on cartenau it was us, derplander's party, and probably a few more.
When Louisioux send us into the future, while we have a succced jornuey, something happened to derpanlander and his party.

Just pure speculation but based that there are screenshots of him and his party, with weapons of light and AF with its default colors ( not black ). I would said that something happened.
Maybe they were brainshowed or maybe the ascians showed them the truth.
Hard to say really, but if you are a super hero and after a terrible event you end up on a land were everyone has forgotten you, well maybe they didnt reacted as well as we did.

[myahele]

Yeah, I think something happened and they became mind-controlled or something more subtle

Look at the paladin of darkness:


I wonder if Lousoix casted as similar spell as Flow? Instead of teleporting them (and us if legacy) they were sent into the lifestream in stasis until 5 years passed.

[Cilia]

Ehh... until 3.1 we can throw as much crap at the wall as we want, but I doubt much (if any) of it is gonna stick.

Personally, I find this hypothesis unlikely. All the Warriors of Light from 1.x were sent into the future by Louisoix's spell; it wasn't Flow, it was time-space magic (emphasis on time). Is it even possible the Ascians can interfere with it? Yes it is! Until the reveal almost anything is possible, though, given magic exists, so guessing possibilities is largely pointless. There isn't enough information to determine probabilities, either, so all we can do is wait.

... personally, I hope the Warriors of Darkness are just regular adventurers like us, roped into a conflict they don't understand and want no real part of, someone we could be friends with in other circumstances. Make there be no real differences between us except the god we're shackled to. (My dream of them being the lost Scions for maximum tragedy has been dashed, so...)

[Balipu]

At least it is 99% now that the WoD really is derplander. Puts all those CGI videos in perspective, doesn't it?

I hope it is more complicated than tempered by a primal or posessed by an Ascian. We need genuinely, but not cartoonishly, evil bad guys like Thordan. He was awesome.

[Kallera]

... personally, I hope the Warriors of Darkness are just regular adventurers like us, roped into a conflict they don't understand and want no real part of, someone we could be friends with in other circumstances. Make there be no real differences between us except the god we're shackled to. (My dream of them being the lost Scions for maximum tragedy has been dashed, so...)

I like your personal idea a lot, actually.

Though I would like to point out that when there was wild speculation about what Dalamud was in 1.0, someone managed to hit the nail on the head with their speculaton. xD