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  1. #21
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    Alipoprocks's Avatar
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    Sam Witch
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    Simple. If you went through the pain of making 1 complete Relic AKA Zeta

    (Base Relic -> Zenith -> Atma -> Animus -> Novus -> Nexus -> Zodiac -> Zeta)

    Then you are eligible to skip the first step of one 3.15 Relic of your own choosing, among any jobs you have unlocked.

    If you've done that twice (WHM and PLD weapons for example) then, you can choose to skip the first step of MCH and DRG if you'd like.

    There you have it. If you are still unsure, make all Zetas from all of your jobs, and then you'll be fine 3

    Can't wait to see the looks of them! ^^
    Yeah. The person I was responding to said they were not going to get all relics because you could only do it once. But what I understood from the dev post was that you could do it with as many relics as you had completed.

    So I was confused by his post.
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  2. #22
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    SchalaZeal's Avatar
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    Schala Zeal
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    Leviathan
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    I guess everyone has their own idea on what pointless is or would be in this game. Myself, I don't see a reason to implement an entire weapon set for less than 5% of the player-base
    Only 5% of the playerbase CAN do A1S (not *have done* but *can do*)? Getting a static is the hard part, but Thordan isn't likely to demand 2 hours a night 3 days a week for a couple weeks to clear for i195-i200 people.

    I never set foot in Savage, I got i196 on Summoner. Will have i198 by the patch. If I can get 8 people in my FC to go, we can clear it.

    I consider the Thordan weapon will be good for my non-Summoner jobs, like Scholar, and as glamour for Summoner. I don't care if its worth it only very shortly.

    Edit: swapped my week and day
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    Last edited by SchalaZeal; 10-31-2015 at 08:48 AM.
    Summoner first, Scholar second...but mainly crafter.

  3. #23
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    Aisha Clan-clan
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    Only 5% of the playerbase CAN do A1S (not *have done* but *can do*)? Getting a static is the hard part, but Thordan isn't likely to demand 2 hours a week 3 days a night for a couple weeks to clear for i195-i200 people.

    I never set foot in Savage, I got i196 on Summoner. Will have i198 by the patch. If I can get 8 people in my FC to go, we can clear it.

    I consider the Thordan weapon will be good for my non-Summoner jobs, like Scholar, and as glamour for Summoner. I don't care if its worth it only very shortly.
    It was a gross exaggeration on my part, but I understand what you mean. I also agree that the static is the tricky part. I wish I could get in there and have a go at it, but unfortunately my schedule doesn't allow it.

    199 was easy to obtain for myself. Unfortunately gearing in this game is really nothing but THAT. Easy. I don't consider loot being locked behind weekly timers or RNG, hard to obtain. That isn't to say the content included isn't difficult.

    Here's hoping the fight is at least fun, and the weapons are worthy of glamoring.
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    Last edited by Laerad3993; 10-31-2015 at 08:47 AM.

  4. #24
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    Jim Berry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maikeru View Post
    Hello!



    Source: Here!
    Thanks. I currently have Zetas for NIN and BRD. I really should finish PLD, but she's on Atma Books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    Yeah. The person I was responding to said they were not going to get all relics because you could only do it once. But what I understood from the dev post was that you could do it with as many relics as you had completed.

    So I was confused by his post.
    Just seen this, so I guess I DON'T need to finish PLD weapon, since I only play NIN and PLD anyway. Having Zetas for NIN and BRD already will push my NIN and PLD weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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  6. #26
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    Fiona Greentear
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    I wish the WHM relic is beautiful. Thyrus was awesome, but I didn't like Nirvama for one thing: too much minimal details. In a game with poor antialiasing, Nirvana looks like a tangly bunch of pixels with glowing wings.
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  7. #27
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    Yoshi noted that Thordan extreme is rated at a difficulty around AS1 and AS2, he added that the weapon rewards will also help players currently attempting AS3 and AS4.

    Presently players are having difficulty clearing AS1-AS3 with i200 esoteric weapons, with this evidence i am speculating that the weapon drops from Thordan extreme will be i210. In the past, relic weapons have either matched or were one level below the foremost raid content, i assume the new relic weapons will start at i200 or match i210.

    The reason behind the itemization, players that wish to avoid any potential grind design the relic questline is known for, can do so by committing to Thordan extreme, and vice versa.
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  8. #28
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    Aisha Clan-clan
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang View Post
    Yoshi noted that Thordan extreme is rated at a difficulty around AS1 and AS2, he added that the weapon rewards will also help players currently attempting AS3 and AS4.

    Presently players are having difficulty clearing AS1-AS3 with i200 esoteric weapons, with this evidence i am speculating that the weapon drops from Thordan extreme will be i210. In the past, relic weapons have either matched or were one level below the foremost raid content, i assume the new relic weapons will start at i200 or match i210.
    How is it supposed to be related in terms of difficulty to AS1/2 if there is no DPS check? Lol

    Aren't people having issues with savage because of the dps checks and NOT mechanics?
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  9. #29
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    Leviathan
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    Aren't people having issues with savage because of the dps checks and NOT mechanics?
    People who can't clear with between i200 and i205 average are not just having dps issues. Some people die and everyone wipes. Pretty sure.
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    Summoner first, Scholar second...but mainly crafter.

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    People who can't clear with between i200 and i205 average are not just having dps issues. Some people die and everyone wipes. Pretty sure.
    Sounds like a personal problem then, seeing how I'm sure people have done it without 205.
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