So its 0-2 in the male female glamour department, yay?

[Blood-Aki]

It's a little mixed up there - are you saying most of the players are female, or most of the player characters are female? Because we really have no proof of the first one, so we can't say that for sure one way or another. And as for the latter one, the devs themselves provided the evidence that the gender distribution overall is practically half-and-half:

...especially very much so in Japan, which makes this very significant and apparent female bias in clothes design even more interesting.

You should probably read it again, as i specfically said female CHARACTERS, obviously they do not know the gender behind the characters as that would be silly to compare. as for the that chart 50/38/64 is higher then 50/62/36 albeit small, it still classifes as "most" and that isn't including after that was taken, or how many are RMT who simply spam the 1st choice which is hyur male midlander.

[BreathlessTao]

as for the that chart 50/38/64 is higher then 50/62/36 albeit small, it still classifes as "most"

Then our definitions of "most" differ greatly. "Most", to me, in this sense, would mean something like 80-20. Which the stats are very far from.

[Blood-Aki]

Then our definitions of "most" differ greatly. "Most", to me, in this sense, would mean something like 80-20. Which the stats are very far from.

That study isn't very accurate as i already explained why in my previous post..again.. read it. unless they can somehow filter out "bots"

[BreathlessTao]

I don't know if I'd really call it a new bunny outfit. They just bent the ears and colored the fishnets/bows black.

That's not even new either, by the way, there have been NPCs in the GS with one of those ears bent since ... pretty much GS was implemented I think?

That study isn't very accurate as i already explained why in my previous post..again.. read it. unless they can somehow filter out "bots"

I'm pretty sure they have means to filter out at least the majority of the bots, if they want to. Regardless, keep on dodging the issue as much as you like, it won't make it go away.

[Blood-Aki]

That's not even new either, by the way, there have been NPCs in the GS with one of those ears bent since ... pretty much GS was implemented I think?




I'm pretty sure they have means to filter out at least the majority of the bots, if they want to. Regardless, keep on dodging the issue as much as you like, it won't make it go away.

Are you really that naive? if they could "filter out" the bots that easily then they wouldnt be having a massive bot issue to begin with, that go undetected for weeks on end, Its not a matter of dodging the issue, there is no issue, its a matter of you being in denial, they are catering to what the playerbase mostly consists of, females (characters, since you have trouble getting points) Once you accept that, you might be a little happier.

[BreathlessTao]

Are you really that naive? if they could "filter out" the bots that easily then they wouldnt be having a massive bot issue to begin with, that go undetected for weeks on end, Its not a matter of dodging the issue, there is no issue, its a matter of you being in denial, they are catering to what the playerbase mostly consists of, females (characters, since you have trouble getting points) Once you accept that, you might be a little happier.

Bots too are buying the game and paying the subs - enough said. And contrary to how you keep pressing it, an overall 4% difference doesn't constitute to "mostly", especially not in as big a ratio as the gear gender-balance is skewed.

[Miste]

Like you? the irony is strong in this one, also, we're still living in that age where troll=someone who disagrees with you.

Says the person who tells other people with conflicting opinions to their own that they should just stop having an opinion and learn to take a point so they can be "happier".

Are you really that naive? Its not a matter of dodging the issue, there is no issue, its a matter of you being in denial, they are catering to what the playerbase mostly consists of, females (characters, since you have trouble getting points) Once you accept that, you might be a little happier.

Also a person who basically says that people with an opinion different than them are just crying waaah like babies just because they have an opinion.

i don't cry about trival things that do not go my way, so no, and people are already here crying about it. which is why this topic as well as a few others exist to begin with. "waaaah i want more male gear, i want female gear on males this is unfair!" etc.

Uh huh...you definitely respect other peoples opinions..../sarcasm


As for topic I am a woman so I mean I like all the glamours we get but I can see it is lopsided and even with statistics....I mean we have two genders in the game. It should just automatically be more equal in my opinion. So they should stop catering to only one side of the coin.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

It's a little mixed up there - are you saying most of the players are female, or most of the player characters are female? Because we really have no proof of the first one, so we can't say that for sure one way or another. And as for the latter one, the devs themselves provided the evidence that the gender distribution overall is practically half-and-half:

...especially very much so in Japan, which makes this very significant and apparent female bias in clothes design even more interesting.

You should probably read it again, as i specfically said female CHARACTERS, obviously they do not know the gender behind the characters as that would be silly to compare. as for the that chart 50/38/64 is higher then 50/62/36 albeit small, it still classifes as "most" and that isn't including after that was taken, or how many are RMT who simply spam the 1st choice which is hyur male midlander.

Its still not "most". Thats not how these percentages work. NA has more players than EU. So that 62% male on NA is far more characters than the 64% female on EU servers. And with JP at an even split that means there are more male characters in this game than female yet females get catered to far more when it comes to glamours.

Just as an example without knowing actual population numbers.
That 62% male on NA equals 1 million male characters.
But that 64% female on EU only equals 500k female characters.
There are more male characters.

[Blood-Aki]

Its still not "most". Thats not how these percentages work. NA has more players than EU. So that 62% male on NA is far more characters than the 64% female on EU servers. And with JP at an even split that means there are more male characters in this game than female yet females get catered to far more when it comes to glamours.

Just as an example without knowing actual population numbers.
That 62% male on NA equals 1 million male characters.
But that 64% female on EU only equals 500k female characters.
There are more male characters.

Much like i tried to explain this to someone who was in pure denial about it, they do not fitler the bots that make the 1st choice you can spam, which is Hyur male midlander and they are in the thousands. That is where a lot of the "male" population is being counted. so we will never get a "true" definitive number. but i am positive males do not come close to outnumbering female characters, or they would have more male outfits.

I have no problem with people wanting more male styled outfits just don't get upset about it if it never comes to pass to get more then what most of their players are.

Just going in circles now.