Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
I pull 8 mobs. Whm waits 15 seconds to start holying. I aoe/get hate/self heal with abyssal drain, after 15 seconds whm begins holy spam.

I pull 8 mobs, whm starts holying. I can't aoe properly or establish a solid lead in hate, which i need if a whm is gonna be holying. When they're done, im close to mp floor, have done crap damage, and probably lost hate on a mob or two.

In the former scenario, we both get huge aoe deeps, i keep hate, stuff dies. In the latter scenario, i cant do proper damage or hate just so the whm could holy 15s earlier, and stuff takes longer to die.
Sorry this is dumb, ideally you whm should pop shroud at some point and if you cant get hate after that then you should probably consider a different class.

Seriously git gud and wait until the mobs are stun locked and the mobs will die a lot faster.