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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    Everyone except for a few white knight square enix employees that post on the forums know that summoner is a disgrace. Lore is a BS excuse. Manpower is a BS excuse. You mean to tell me that they can make a crap ton of minion models, but making a better looking egi is too hard? GTFO with that crap.
    Minion models are ridiculously un-detailed. So thats something to consider. I'm not saying they should be left alone by any means but...

    you really want an egi with the same graphical spec's as a minion?

    All I'm trying to say is that Egi's need to be kept small to keep the field clear of clutter and obstructions. With the limit on size it would be very hard for the design team to create something that is gonna really please everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    Everyone except for a few white knight square enix employees that post on the forums know that summoner is a disgrace. Lore is a BS excuse. Manpower is a BS excuse. You mean to tell me that they can make a crap ton of minion models, but making a better looking egi is too hard? GTFO with that crap.
    well said my honest truth senses tingled and everthing
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  3. #23
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    i say let they release a poll to see what the majority wants
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    Minion models are ridiculously un-detailed. So thats something to consider. I'm not saying they should be left alone by any means but...

    you really want an egi with the same graphical spec's as a minion?

    All I'm trying to say is that Egi's need to be kept small to keep the field clear of clutter and obstructions. With the limit on size it would be very hard for the design team to create something that is gonna really please everyone.
    Your saying a one color egi is better designed than minions? your smoking crack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    Your saying a one color egi is better designed than minions? your smoking crack.
    Sigh.





    You tell me what looks better.

    Apparently i'm not the only one smoking crack... cause i'm pretty sure the egi looks better.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    Sigh.





    You tell me what looks better.

    Apparently i'm not the only one smoking crack... cause i'm pretty sure the egi looks better.
    i dont see the eyes on ifrit , its like bland, in the other hand minion has more details that i can percept as a firebomb and ifrit i would not say that thing is ifrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by wertykelpie View Post
    i dont see the eyes on ifrit , its like bland, in the other hand minion has more details that i can percept as a firebomb and ifrit i would not say that thing is ifrit
    The rendering on the ifrit is waaaay better. Color tonalities, texturing, flame effects....

    Ok you guys win... you can have all the minion quality summons you want. Guess there's nothing for me to argue here if that's what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    The rendering on the ifrit is waaaay better. Color tonalities, texturing, flame effects....

    Ok you guys win... you can have all the minion quality summons you want. Guess there's nothing for me to argue here if that's what you want.
    i can understand your point of view it would be strange to have summons be like wind up minions but its not minion treatment we want here i guess
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    Honestly, I love me some summoner, but I don't see the point. I don't see the point in having Garuda look huge and cool, doing contagion.

    My point being, that If they made them ala XI, I would want them to do cooler things.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by wertykelpie View Post
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    I'm just trying to be realistic. Egi's are secondary to your character and thus are treated that way. It would be difficult to take something so small and add a ton of detail into it without it becoming a mess. It's the same thing with armors and weapons in the game. The artwork on the roe weapons is much easier to see and comprehend then the lala version. Since egi's are a static size for everyone though they are all pretty darn small.

    If your loking for a way to gear your egi with different armors and such, then that would be a big undertaking for the staff that has bigger issues with class balance and raid balance issues in the current meta. The design was chosen to be simple and easy to read.

    If they did find a way to render them better to allow for something like that, then that would be cool. I'm not against the idea, but I'm also trying to be reasonable.
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