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  1. #111
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    Odett's Avatar
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    So que up for sunken temple as WAR, I notice everytime I pulled, the mobs ran to the healer I was confused then I realized I had regen on like the whole dungeon.

    At the end he was like just click regen dude, well I'm on PS4 so I kindly respond "please don't use regen when I pull trash ty", he replies "I think I know what I'm doing". (Clearly not) lol he was a level 60 WHM by the way lol this is something you learn as a beginner and the tank should not have to click regen unless you used it by accident not cause your lazy.

    What is wrong with our community.
    I really don't know why people complain about this because I've never had agro issues when a healer throws a regen on me at the start of a pull, or before. Just lob/tomahawk/unmend, then Flash/Unleash. If anything, you can take it as a challenge to work on snap agro.
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  2. #112
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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Odd, Ive only ever seen it hit for 2.5k to everyone.



    You can cast any offensive spell w/o cleric stance, not just DoTs...
    The big one? Where he drops aggro and moves to the center of the room and you have to feed him one of the flawed adds from the tubes to stop it?

    To be clear, I am talking the 1111 tonze swing, not the 111 tonze.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    I really don't know why people complain about this because I've never had agro issues when a healer throws a regen on me at the start of a pull, or before. Just lob/tomahawk/unmend, then Flash/Unleash. If anything, you can take it as a challenge to work on snap agro.
    To be fair, I had an AST doing this in SV normal while leveling DRK. I didn't realize he was doing it, because honestly, who does that. Then I decided to pull that one group back down the stairs through the wyvren since what I did notice is that heals weren't very good. Obv they ran off on me and it lead to a wipe. To which the healer got up in arms that I had to be better since he was using regen. Sure enough when I started paying attention, he was applying regen as the last mob in a pull would die, every pull. I had no words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Pretty sure you're not thinking of the right attack. 1111-tonze Swing is the one where the ground glows purple and you have to click one of those thingies in the room to interrupt it, or else your non-tanks are probably kissing the floor, and probably your tank too unless he's got mitigations.
    A fending tank with good gear can survive it even without cooldowns. I imagine by the end of the expac, anyone will, maybe with a SS.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 10-07-2015 at 02:57 AM.

  3. #113
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    I really don't know why people complain about this because I've never had agro issues when a healer throws a regen on me at the start of a pull, or before. Just lob/tomahawk/unmend, then Flash/Unleash. If anything, you can take it as a challenge to work on snap agro.
    Lol u missed the point I didn't have an issue with loosing the mobs but that healer took a hit or two because he was simply lazy and it didn't bother me until he tried to tell me how to tank...if you are not paying attention to something that should never happen the mobs are gone before your overpower/unleash/flash even goes out.

    I'm all about making everyone's job easier and he was making his job harder not mine lol
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  4. #114
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ReddAxel View Post
    Oh yeah, it definitely is. I don't mind doing it now and again but if I have to do it before every pull in the dungeon I'm gonna have something to say to the healer, that or let them tank via regen if they don't listen to me or give a crap. Fortunately I haven't ran into that kind of situation just yet, that or if I have, I've established aggro quickly enough so the healer doesn't die.
    Not gonna lie, but this is the one of the biggest reasons why I can't play this game on controller.

    I can't even imagine being a blood 4 blood DPS and having to go so out of the way to click it off if a killer mechanic is coming.
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  5. #115
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    ReddAxel's Avatar
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    Redd Axel
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    Siren
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Not gonna lie, but this is the one of the biggest reasons why I can't play this game on controller.

    I can't even imagine being a blood 4 blood DPS and having to go so out of the way to click it off if a killer mechanic is coming.
    I know exactly what you mean. I played NIN for my static when we needed a melee DPS for T13 pre expansion. I would only use B4B if I knew 100% that I wouldn't be getting hit by absolutely anything for 20 seconds. Sometimes I wouldn't even use it, small dps loss > death.
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  6. #116
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    FallenArisen0990's Avatar
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Behemoth
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Not gonna lie, but this is the one of the biggest reasons why I can't play this game on controller.

    I can't even imagine being a blood 4 blood DPS and having to go so out of the way to click it off if a killer mechanic is coming.
    That's why I can only play this one PS4 and PC (PS3 is just unplayable imo). But then again, I have a weird config of Controller and Keyboard. Using both while cross armed. I use the mouse only for menus and for selectable AoE spot/LB. The controller is literally used for movement and sub menus only and the keyboard does the rest lol.
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  7. #117
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Just had a great fun run in Fractal... we were blowing through everything (people who know how to play their jobs in DF??? unbelieveable)
    BUT THEN the healer DC'd, right before the second boss. It was just me (BRD), a MNK, and a WAR.
    We decided "fuck it" and tried to beat it. Oneshot the poor Minotaur. Proceed to the last boss. We attempt it a couple times but each time we lose around 10-15%... so close, man...so close....

    A healer did eventually join and we beat it.

    Lots fun thanks guys
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  8. #118
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    WinterLuna's Avatar
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    I was once in a Brayflox NM run and DPS was very, very slow. I can't exaggerate how slow it was. We had a monk and a machinist, but the machinist was very talkative and seemed to be doing his rotation just fine. The monk however, didn't say a word. It was only when I stopped my music and turned on the FF volume that I heard a really annoying noise, over and over and over again. Turns out the monk was spamming (and spamming only) Touch Of Death on every mob.
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  9. #119
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Got Neverep as expert joined as tank got in (this is my 5 day in a row getting this.) started first pull.

    Started to loss hate WHM decides to make things go faster by holying everything so much mp loss trying to get it back. Next pull same thing.

    After first boss pull next set more holy. Whm asked why I didn't get under healer bubble. Was trying to stack everything because people that caster vanu vanu dose not move even for bird seed also trying to keep hate with all the holy going on. All my MP. LoL

    Make it to last boss WHM complained how long it took to get there (took less than 30 min to get to last boss.). So I said use PF if baby wants their way (cause come on who complains about getting there under 30 min). Next thing I know every one jumps off the platform killing themselves. WHM says sucks for you we are a party. I die next thing in kicked.


    This is why there's a shortage of tanks in the duty finder.
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  10. #120
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    Aera Lure
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 60
    The current meta as well as threads on these and other forums expect healers to dps any free moments they aren't healing. We'll actually get flak if we don't. Fractal, Neverreap and A2 especially it's Holy Town when I run them. The runs are very, very fast and tanks I run with regularly have never complained about it. Not in DF either, although I do find some groups seem to set the expectation to play speed runs that way and others it's a little more risky. If I see a tank do a big room-wide pull there I set up to spam Holy. I've never had a DF group or tank say not to do it, but I'd change it up if ever anyone said so.
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    Last edited by AeraLure; 10-07-2015 at 11:46 PM.

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