I feel like blunt damage would have made more sense for MCH.

[Judge_Xero]

We have 11 pages of this because people love to argue and are both ridiculous and incessant. There's nothing ambiguous to suggest that bullets qualify as blunt weapons.

Ultimately for me it comes down to, what is the Damage Type and how does it relate what type of injury a weapon would cause.

Sure a gun will penetrate someone, but by definition it causes a blunt force injury, which is completely different from the type of injury that a spear or arrow will cause.
Spears and arrows cause sharp force injury, where the penetration is wider than it is thick, as well as deeper than it is thick.

So by increasing someone's piercing damage taken, are you going to cause bullets to cut deeper, wider, slice arteries all things relative to a spear or arrow? No, but by increasing someone's blunt damage taken you could increase the effect of the type of injury that a bullet would cause, lacerations, bruising, organ damage by kinetic energy dissipation, breaking of bones, etc.

I read further back that someone mentioned if you punch with enough force to put a hole in someone would it be considered piercing. It would not, and that's the same principle of why bullets don't cause piercing damage/injuries.

[karateorangutang]

We have 11 pages of this because people love to argue and are both ridiculous and incessant. There's nothing ambiguous about how silly it is to suggest that bullets qualify as blunt weapons.

As far as gameplay goes, it could definitely be interesting to introduce a counterpart to the Disembowel dynamic, but bludgeoning bullets are a big stretch, even for this kind of game. Call it something else, code the MNK debuff for Blunt/Projectile Vulnerability Up, and bypass the semantics.

There's nothing really to worry about here. The dev's aren't going to change the damage type at this stage in the game anyway. I'm not gonna try to convince those that don't want to be convinced so really this is a dead thread. Sharp and blunt are really a size category driven adjective. Add to that the design and intention of the weapon itself then its a pretty clear case.

Honestly though, your wasting your time here. The dev's knew what's up when they assigned the damage type.

[Zak]

The only relevant question to be asked about blunt vs piercing is: Does it pierce?

Yes, it pierces.

End of thread.

PS: Slashing isn't piercing even though both go through skin because slashing and piercing are different things. Learn how physics work.

PPS: What I'm wondering is how can people think that bullets should deal blunt damage due to irrelevant technicalities and dictionary definitions of physics phenomena but nobody bats an eye at the sight of axes that do slashing damage. Axes chop, don't slash. Slashing requires friction. If anything, axes should do piercing damage too; since that describes what's happening far more accurately than slashing damage.

[Cligue]

What type of bullets are we using, that is the question.

[RiceisNice]

What type of bullets are we using, that is the question.

We use every type of bullets.

Ever.

[Kabooa]

Just make everything 'physical'.

Would that be so horrible?

[DarkmoonVael]

We use every type of bullets.

Ever.

Do lalafells count as these types of bullets?

[AlereRaeder]

It would be hilarious if bullets bounced off you and what really hurt what the impact lmao

MCH paintball guns

[RiceisNice]

Do lalafells count as these types of bullets?

It's what we use for foot/leg Graze.

What, you thought getting shot in the legs was slowing you down? There's clearly lalafells holding you down by the feet/legs to bind/slow you.

[Viviza]

We have 11 pages of this because people love to argue and are both ridiculous and incessant. There's nothing ambiguous about how silly it is to suggest that bullets qualify as blunt weapons.

It's fun because it's vague.

I mean, take a ball like a baseball. We can probably agree that this is a blunt object. Now take a musket ball. It's still a ball, just small and heavy. If I throw it at you really hard, it'll bounce off and hurt you much like a baseball would. Still blunt, probably. Now if I fire it out of a pistol at you, the ball punches through you. Perhaps this is piercing -- but the ball hasn't changed. Is it the penetrative factor? Does a beach ball become a piercing weapon if we accelerated it enough? Do spear attacks count as blunt if they are deflected off armor?

That sort of stuff.