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  1. #11
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    The only thing that will change the "in need" category is more tanks queuing into DF than other roles. I'll happily queue in DF as a tank, but according to quite a number of tanks on this forum they won't because of the attitudes of a lot of DF people. And I've been lucky for the most part but I've seen my fair share too.
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  2. #12
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    Chris Corona
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I've been lucky then as I'm que as a Tank and got no one complaining about my Tanking skills... I play a very dependable Tank in my runs.

    Though it's something I like to see... mixed up a bit or changed a tad for the Adventurers or maybe add in a "second" Adventurer in need. Like the first one gets better and higher reward while the second one gets the current reward level. Maybe something like that which provides some balance and always other roles to be used for Roulette.
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  3. #13
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Think about this....

    0 tanks in queue, 2 healers, 10 dps in a queue for a 4 man dungeon

    Current in need: tank

    According to your suggestion: after 2 minutes, in need: dps

    Everyone sees that and queues as dps

    0 tanks in queue, 3 healers, 30 dps in queue

    dps now have to wait ages

    you now get some 'bonus' exp but have to wait twice as long since everyone wants the 'bonus'.
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  4. #14
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    Verrine Mercer
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusChris View Post
    True, but every bit helps and not just EXP but you get extra Gil and Seals (depends on which Roulette as well) if you do the Adventurer in Need bonus.
    So what you really want is more stuff. There's nothing wrong with asking for that so to say, but the point of the bonus is to incentivize jobs that are needed so that queues pop faster for everyone.

    To be frank, the bonus is honestly pitiful anyway.
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  5. #15
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    Chris Corona
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Oh for the love of...!

    I said RANDOMIZE the Adventurer in Need every few minutes! Not cycle through making all of the Roulettes for Adventurers so it switches from Tank to Healer or DPS.
    Allowing the other Roulettes to get other classes to play as. Then again it doesn't help much when DPS and Healer are the most used classes in the game and Tanks aren't.

    Also I was suggesting now in my previous post of making two sets of "Adventurer in Need" classes where the first class required gets the better and higher rewards making more people play that class more likely for the better rewards where the second class gets the same rewards we currently have for Roulette. Seeing as Tanks are the most requested this might make people want to play as Tank more to earn even greater rewards and help with the queue time.
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  6. #16
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    WinterLuna's Avatar
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    DPS and healers are never really in need which is why they rarely appear. There's no way to mix it up if tanks are the ones in need at that time, which they usually are. The whole point of 'in need' is because that certain class is lacking, they can't just stick a DPS sticker over the top when tanks are the ones needed or DF queues would be 100x worse than they already are.
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 10-02-2015 at 07:30 AM. Reason: Typo

  7. #17
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    Eye_Gore's Avatar
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VirusChris View Post
    Oh for the love of...!

    I said RANDOMIZE the Adventurer in Need every few minutes
    Remove the "in need" part and change it to "Adventurer Bonus".
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  8. #18
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    Velikayl Minx
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    You're not getting it, SE doesn't set the AiN, they don't have a set formula that selects tank 95%, Healers 4% and dps 1% of the time. The system itself looks at the numbers of ppl queuing as the various roles and see's which one is the lowest (based off whatever metrics they use) for each specific content.

    It's not there to give some classes a boost or bonus, it's there to try and encourage more of the lacking role to join up. The only time it's going to not be tank, is when a different role is more 'In Need' because there are plenty of tanks. Since a lot less people play them, it's generally not happening.

    You want the extra reward, fill the role that is currently most required.

    Essentially you're saying to hell with role balance, I want a random bonus given out to various roles so I can get extra stuff for a different job.
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  9. #19
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    Eye_Gore's Avatar
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    You're not getting it, SE doesn't set the AiN,
    Everybody gets it, including the OP. He or she is asking to revamp the bonus so all classes have a chance at it, as we all know who it goes to. It is obvious having it does not encourage more people to play that class that is always needed, as it is most always "tank" needed. No one is queing it even for the bonus so why not just make it a once a day bonus for everyone to have a chance, that is what they are asking. I say just get rid of it, it is not really working anyways.
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  10. #20
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    When it is tank in need the real need is healer. I wish it would change faster.
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