Suggestion: Server Without the Duty Finder

[Moonleg]

Having to talk to people to find a party meant those who were successful at this found good guilds and had a great time

And those who were bad at it grew increasingly frustrated with the game until they quit.

There are many reasons you might not be good at socializing. There's social anxiety for one, maybe you type really slowly, maybe you're dyslexic and don't want to appear stupid through your terrible spelling. Maybe you only read and understand English without being able to put together a sentence because it's not your first, second or even third language, that is the case for a lot of people in Europe. Maybe you just like to play the game as it is without having to jump through hoops for hours just to get to what you enjoy, eg. dungeons.

Accessibility through the Duty Finder is NOT a bad thing.

[Kitano123]

Removing the duty finder may not be the right course of action. The problem is that MMOs have become increasingly anti-social. Most games u go from 1-max lvl without ever talking to others.

What developers need to address is the growing lack of social community in games. Having to talk to people to find a party meant those who were successful at this found good guilds and had a great time, but it certainly had its draw backs. Going back to where it was a chore to find a party may not be a good solution. I would like to see guilds play a specific role in the world and level up in unique ways. And maybe have the same thing for friend lists where the more you play with specific people the more bonuses you get.

So while you may think someone wanting to remove the duty finder is silly, keep in mind the reason they request it is because the growing isolation in MMO communities.

Complete nonsense, mmos are no less social than before, try joining an FC.

What you're really asking for is downtime, the only reason you had time to chat in old mmo's is because of the ridiculous amount of time you had to spend waiting, either to get a party or during a party waiting for healers mp to regen etc.

[Abelli]

Ah official forums, where better to find the lowest common denominator. Trying to argue with me about how good the duty finder is for the game when I stated removing it wasn't a good solution. And another telling me to get a FC without even checking my profile. I would have a more fruitful conversation about MMOs with a rock.

[Jynx]

As much as I despise the duty finder you wouldn't get much done with it removed, the game is far too focused on using it to accomplish most tasks for your battle character.

The base game would need a community focused redesign to make the Duty finder not required, I'd love it if so.

• Usefullness and reasoning to be in a free company other needs a boost
• Open world content needs to be much more than hunts and FATES
• Open world Dungeons
• Dangerous overworld areas
• Moving from one area to another is more difficult than a button press

Things like these help foster communities. Some things that people call archaich and not friendly to players such as the fear or death and penalties, difficult travel, need to group with people on your server to do content. These bring people together to overcome adversity.


The developers have streamlined everything to a point that you don't need to interact with the community anymore so most people just don't.

[PArcher]

You can do this right now. Go ahead and recruit people from all servers and build this community.

Wait...you cant? Not enough people to sustain this?

Basically, if you cant build this idea on a current server, you wont be able to get it to work on its own server.

[Amiaze]

There are many reasons you might not be good at socializing. [...]

Using voicechat fixes all this, save for not speaking English. I'm no fan of voicechat, but I used it during endgame content in ARR. Teamspeak is pretty accessible (you can even get it on your phone), and Discord is free. True, others will have reasons for not really wanting to do this...but I think that learning to socialize with different types of people and growing past people's awkward/stunted social skills (or growing past them yourself) is a very good thing to do. Even if it's done online with people you've never met, growth is still growth.

The base game would need a community focused redesign to make the Duty finder not required, I'd love it if so.

Usefullness and reasoning to be in a free company other needs a boost
Open world content needs to be much more than hunts and FATES
Open world Dungeons
Dangerous overworld areas
Moving from one area to another is more difficult than a button press

I agree on all points except the open world dungeons one. I quite like that dungeons are instanced. Not saying that I would hate them to be in-world (it would remind me of FFXII, which is a good thing), but I've already seen more than enough bots in my instances. I really don't want them charging into dungeons and ruining the experience without the ability to remove them.

[Makeda]

Open world dungeons would just lead to lines forming in front of bosses - and some fool would always cut the line and kill the boss before your turn came up. You'd have giant zerg armies clearing the place - and steam rolling past the few players trying to do it at proper group size. Basically you'd have Everquest 1...

The thing about all these requests people always make for a special server is that you have to wonder how many people asking for it would try it and give up on it a few weeks in out of frustration. I realize that is a VERY BAD REASON to deny changes. In fact its probably the stupidest reason one could use to defeat a NEW idea...

...But lets look at Wildstar for a second - the game that promised dungeons would finally be hard again and raids would actually require all 40 players coordinate. They delivered that, perfectly. And now they've patched it all out, and are going F2P end of this month. Its a great game... especially in its now patched state. But actually delivering on that demand to roll back the clock on MMO design seriously hurt its success.

- If you really want a game with no duty finder and open world dungeons, go show your never cancelled sub to Everquest 1 to the devs, and that your play time still shows several hours a week, as it has since the 1990s. Otherwise... your demand is a big risk.

Because this isn't me chanting down a new idea. Its me pointing out that your request is actually a very old one, that the market long ago rejected. We now need to prove that the rejection was the wrong idea... and that takes showing them numbers...

[Vasala]

As a player who was playing World of Warcraft and Star Wars the Old Republic before each had a dungeon finder I will tell you that it is really not as fun as you think it would be. I can remember spending hours looking for groups for specific dungeons in both games back in those days. The party finder would help sure over what you had to do back then yelling over and over about looking for a group til you found people. Yes I was in guilds in both but that does not always mean there are people on and interested in the same content you are all the time.

[Selli]

You mean I'd actually have to remember where dungeon entrances are? XD

Also, RIP PvP. I can't imagine seeing 24 people surrounding the PvP entrances.

[FoxyAreku]

Leveling would be horrible.