Is Final Fantasy XIV the champion of immersion? Or is it easily usurped?

[Lyndis]

SW TOR is going to kill it immersion-wise. Have you seen the massive guilds already being formed just in anticipation of it? People get really into the Star Wars universe partly because its so iconic. and with over 400,000 pre-orders and over 1.4 mil beta sign ups its pretty well guarenteed to be a success. Plus those that have played it so far seem to like it and it will be launched before christmas now.

I just released a massive Lore guide for this game and have had like only 3 people in an entire day contributee. One post was to something i knew about, one was something that turned out to be wrong (i think) and the other was just a small thing (although -very- helpful).
People in this game don't seem to care much about the world they play in.

I'm very interested in lore, but I like finding it in the game. I'd like to see your lore guide but never seen it.

As for star wars, the graphics and animations look terrible for a modern game. That kills immersion for me. I have a hard time believing I could create a character that I'd enjoy playing as. I enjoyed the storyline in the older knights of the old republic games, but this one hardly interests me from what I've seen. Also, sci fi MMOs are hard to make really immsersive unless you do something like Eve. Which I think Eve proved that the sci fi universe is not my thing.

[Azurymber]

I'm very interested in lore, but I like finding it in the game. I'd like to see your lore guide but never seen it.

As for star wars, the graphics and animations look terrible for a modern game. That kills immersion for me. I have a hard time believing I could create a character that I'd enjoy playing as. I enjoyed the storyline in the older knights of the old republic games, but this one hardly interests me from what I've seen. Also, sci fi MMOs are hard to make really immsersive unless you do something like Eve. Which I think Eve proved that the sci fi universe is not my thing.

yeah i prefer FF graphics too.
my lore guides in my sig. It covers all the lore from the start of the game and from normal npcs and a few quests and leves atm.
the new SW story seems to be just like the old ones, and its kinda the same play style. Im not a huge fan of the graphics but the gameplay looks (and from what i heard is) sound and fun. And again, people are already immersed in it. There are like jedi groups and sith groups who are already enemies in the forums and stuff. i mean the game will be full of geeky RPers but at least it will have character.