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  1. #61
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    When the success of my own doings is dependent on the request yes, I will say yes to it every time. After all, I don't want to waste my time, and I don't think any sane person would want to.



    Like I said earlier. Of course it's their right. But the former is expected. The later is pure idiocy. If I'd weight the balance of who is responsible for what, I think it takes some pretty serious self-delusion to believe that choosing the option that wastes your own time is anything but your fault, regardless of who it was. That one side has 7 people doing this speaks a lot of which side has the most "blame".
    Yea. One person inconveniencing 7 other people
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  2. #62
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post

    ...

    I need to buy more popcorn.
    not an official thread til Selli is present \o/
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  3. #63
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    Oh boy here we go again...
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  4. #64
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    Odiron Dulmare
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    Yeah, this is just wrong.
    1) Alex Normal is NOT incredibly easy for an average player. It's incredibly easy for an endgame raider, but it's harder content for an average player.
    There was a thread some weeks ago about just how hard Alex really is. Most agreed that it was slightly harder than the 24-man raids, but definitively easier than most primals. I know the Average player is bad, but I'd like to think it's not that bad. Like I said, the extent of one's role can often be summarized in couple of sentences. I one shotted 3 of the 4 turns on the first week, with randoms, which most of them where also new. I'm sure a group that has the majority with a clear can fare better.

    2) It is not MSQ content, as such it is NOT required to do.
    It's still story content tho. Much like Hildebrand. In fact, SE purposely stated that they are releasing this because they don't want players to be left out of the story like they where in coil.
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  5. #65
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Asahina Karayami
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    xD I did 1st time as Tank (Dark Knight lv171 that time) Alex1.
    We finished without issues!

    My question at party: "1st timer tank was here! How was I? xD

    I never videos as guides! I dont let me spoil <,<
    So I just watch other people there doings and enemy there actions/rotations!
    (2)

  6. #66
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    Kyros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    Yea. One person inconveniencing 7 other people
    ITT: Typing for about 10 seconds is so inconvenient I'd rather wipe. Other 6 players share my line of thought. Fault clearly lies on the new person.
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  7. #67
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabian_Wolf View Post
    Yeah I know, but if I ask for few things they must answer and not stay silent till a wipe then they vent their anger and frustration at me although I clearly asked before the pull.

    Always hungry for a fine specieman of Au ra!

    Ok first I don't know if this is the way you ment to writ this but no even if you say your new don't (never) expect people to tell you how to do the fight once your in. In an ideal world we all would hold hands and sing happy songs together (not me cause that's just weired why would people do this???). Short answer never expect help. No one has to give you the answers to anything.

    Second really man leave our tails alone.
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    Last edited by Dererk; 09-14-2015 at 08:18 PM.

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    not an official thread til Selli is present \o/
    I've been recognized!



    Sleep is simply for normal people who don't have a 20-year-old cat to tend to.


    Srsly. Does this look like the face of mercy?!

    (4)
    Last edited by Selli; 09-14-2015 at 08:29 PM.

  9. #69
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I think this wouldn't of been so much of a hot topic, if the OP Hadn't of put the onus of responsibility on the party for "Not explaining it to me."
    Take some responsibility
    pretty much

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    I one shotted 3 of the 4 turns on the first week
    sometimes you need to realize some players need a lot more help. people like us have endulged in end game raiding where everything else is laughable. but there are people who have never seen mechanics outside of dodge the cone/ circle, touch the tree, etc. those people who still struggle in content like titan hard mode. sometimes its not as easy as 1 liner explanations.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    There was a thread some weeks ago about just how hard Alex really is. Most agreed that it was slightly harder than the 24-man raids, but definitively easier than most primals. I know the Average player is bad, but I'd like to think it's not that bad. Like I said, the extent of one's role can often be summarized in couple of sentences. I one shotted 3 of the 4 turns on the first week, with randoms, which most of them where also new. I'm sure a group that has the majority with a clear can fare better.
    I wouldn't say it's easier than HM primals. It's somewhere between those and EX Primals IMO, and that's something I wouldn't consider easy, especially seeing how many people can still fail in HM primals despite the majority there being extremely over-geared and thus skipping mechanics.
    Yes, most groups in A1N clear without issues even when they have new people, as long as these don't mess up one of the 3 main things - 1) Provoke when 0.5 spawns. 2) Kill adds in the right place. 3) Damage the two oppressors evenly. But if you have someone who only knows these points, you push a lot of work on the healers, since you will likely be taking unnecessary damage.

    It's still story content tho. Much like Hildebrand. In fact, SE purposely stated that they are releasing this because they don't want players to be left out of the story like they where in coil.
    And there are still people who have issues with the Typhoon fight, and people expect you to know the trials within the Hildi story. As said, A:N is harder content for the average player, and should be taken as such: Read a guide before going in, unless you are among "World's first". There is a lot of content that doesn't require reading a guide (basically all 4-man content falls there, except maybe Garuda Story), but Alex is IMO not among them.
    And once again if you want to go in blind, do it, but don't ask for help, you reading a guide takes less time than getting it explained, and guides don't spoil the story.
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