Remove Weapon Rack from Strife Vest

[HakuroDK]

Gotta disagree with you there. Particularly this side of the world. Even with the new Dissidia featuring the original as default, he'll still appearing in the Advent Children garb more often.

If I may intervene on this, his Advent Children outfit was in Dissidia, and apparently from this video, the weapon rack is nowhere to be seen on the vest. So I would argue that the weapon rack is hardly iconic, otherwise Dissidia cut out an absolutely crucial piece of Cloud's outfit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14UGsu0y1CI

[Niwashi]

Whether the sheaths are iconic or not is up for debate. (My vote would be "not" since they're just an Advent Children thing.) But regardless, they're clearly not part of the vest. They're part of the swords they're designed to hold. If we don't get the arsenal of swords, then we shouldn't get that odd piece of it attached to an unrelated vest. An empty sheath (let alone an empty multi-sheath thing) is just weird.

I do, however, agree with Bhuni on one point. An on/off toggle for this one item when no other chest slot items have such a toggle would not be an effortless feature to add, and probably not worthwhile unless there was a wide range of such items with parts to toggle on/off.

I just find it odd that those sheaths were included in the first place.

[Averax]

I don't even remember if cloud used that holster for the entire movie. (except for one sword)

Acceptable solution: Make it a toggle.

As someone has mentioned before. It's not really an iconic part of the outfit, because they ditch it altogether in his Dissidia costume.

[Amberyl]

If I may intervene on this, his Advent Children outfit was in Dissidia <snip>

Wrong Dissidia.

As for it not being in a six year old PSP game? Uh... it's a PSP game.

[WellFooled]

The sheathes are apart of the costume therefore they are iconic, it bugs me because people think they're entitled to having past Final Fantasy characters costumes changed to suit their needs.

This post is pure idiocy. It would be effortless to simply add a on/off feature to the ugly sheath.

All you brought to this thread is pure ignorance and calling me an idiot whilst outing yourself as one later bbz.

You two are fighting like grade schoolers. Breath in and out a few times before you post again. Adults keep cool when they're disagreeing with someone, children do not. You aren't children.

Now, Cloud doesn't wear the sheath in every scene during Advent Children.

Sheath On:

Sheath Off:

Nor does he wear it in Kingdom Hearts.



So iconic or not, there is precedent for the outfit appearing without a sheath so its not unreasonable to want it. That said, it would mean work and resources to create a 2nd, augmented version, of the vest. Resources SE might choose to spend elsewhere.

[HakuroDK]

Wrong Dissidia.

As for it not being in a six year old PSP game? Uh... it's a PSP game.

Semantics. He doesn't have the weapon rack in any Dissidia game.

The first link was the original Dissidia.

Here's Duodecim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwC3Y9fodJY

And here's the Arcade/PS4 version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O97LK_QQpBo

[Amberyl]

Nor does he wear it in Kingdom Hearts.

...a PS2 game.

Because they had the polys to spare back then, righty? *rolls eyes* Skipping posts with counter arguments is pretty lame.

As for those screengrabs - of course he doesn't have the sheath in the second, he's just respawned from the lifestream again?

[Amberyl]

Semantics.

Why? They didn't have the poly count for that kind of detail in the PS2/PSP era, and the costume isn't even in the new game yet? (At least it wasn't the last time I played it, and I don't see it in the footage you linked.)

[HakuroDK]

Why? They didn't have the poly count for that kind of detail in the PS2/PSP era, and the costume isn't even in the new game yet? (At least it wasn't the last time I played it, and I don't see it in the footage you linked.)

I've showed you three examples of where it doesn't exist. Someone else showed you two examples--including the only known appearance of the weapon rack--where it doesn't exist.

Hell, here's a screenshot of G-Bike for Mobile. Where it also doesn't exist.



What the hell do you want from me? Show me a source outside of FFXIV and Advent Children where Cloud has the weapon rack, please. Because I'm coming up with squat.

[WellFooled]

...a PS2 game.

Because they had the polys to spare back then, righty? *rolls eyes* Skipping posts with counter arguments is pretty lame.

As for those screengrabs - of course he doesn't have the sheath in the second, he's just respawned from the lifestream again?

My apologies, when I was composing the post you hadn't yet posted your counter arguments. It took awhile to capture the screen grabs, crop them, and host them .

As for your first argument, saving polygons might be the reason why it wasn't included, but it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't wearing the sheath. If he wasn't wearing it in one game, it sets the precedent for the outfit to appear without it in another, regardless of whether polygons still need to be saved. It isn't intrinsic to the outfit, so the outfit can exist either with it or without it (for another example, a lot of figurines of Cloud in that outfit don't include the sheath).

And for your second argument, I'll be honest, I don't remember the circumstances surrounding the screenshot I posted. Is there something in particular that happened that would result in him not wearing a sheath, but keep his clothes and motorcycle intact?

EDIT:

Semantics. He doesn't have the weapon rack in any Dissidia game.

The first link was the original Dissidia.

And here's the Arcade/PS4 version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O97LK_QQpBo

What the hell do you want from me? Show me a source outside of FFXIV and Advent Children where Cloud has the weapon rack, please. Because I'm coming up with squat.

The problem with these two examples is that it isn't the outfit in question. Those are both variations of his original clothes from FFVII (which never had a sheath), the outfit with the sheath attached being discussed are his clothes from Advent Children.