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    Shining_Tiger_Excalibur's Avatar
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    Shining Tiger
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    Paladin Lv 60

    "Base/Simple" stigma of Paladin and how we must deal with it/prepare for the future.

    We're all no doubt ran ragged from every form of social media pulling us in multiple directions, forcing us to think a certain way about the community seemingly "pissing and moaning itself" into exhaustion when it's really only a small percentage doing that. We as Paladins (and I think I can speak for more than just me,) are mostly just afraid of not even being considered worthy of acknowledgement just because a development team thinks we should be "simple" in every aspect much in the same way mushrooms with appendages are viewed in Marry-oh. Much like everything else in life the "simple" things are over looked until it's in your face or brought to your attention in the fashion of a tragedy that could have possibly been avoided. That last sentence is extremely hyperbolic because this is just a game, but since I've sat down and thought for a few moments, I love playing Paladin and I'm not going to let a development team dictate what I play.

    If my job choice is to die because it's "simple," I'll meet you on the battlefield, fight tooth and nail for every bit of content we can get through and garner your respect and the development teams attention by doing so. As it stands it's the only option a "simple" job has to stand a chance at being relevant the longer its lifespan is drawn out. I'll have to be carried because of my forced simplicity, but I'll make damned sure I help where possible in every single instance.
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    Philia Felice
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    I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.
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    Kori Fleming
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    He's going to fight for his right to... simple.

    Or something.
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    Sapphidia Wulfhaven
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    Paladin doesnt have a stigma because it's simple, it has a stigma because in practise it does poopy damage compared to the other tanks.

    If anything "simple" can be a benefit because it often means reliable/consistant in a game with complicated boss mechanics. I think I see what you're trying to say, but I think it's a little misguided!
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphidia View Post
    Paladin doesnt have a stigma because it's simple, it has a stigma because in practise it does poopy damage compared to the other tanks.

    If anything "simple" can be a benefit because it often means reliable/consistant in a game with complicated boss mechanics. I think I see what you're trying to say, but I think it's a little misguided!
    The problem is not PLD's design, but the fact the devs allowed the tank meta to focus on DPS. That in itself is the result of not designing tanks to keep them tanking in their tank stance (since a good part of the DPS issue wouldn't exist if they had; all it would mean is that raids would have had to spend an extra week or two or esoterics to gear their DPS appropriately to meet the checks in Alexander).

    The desire for "simple" comes from the fact half the people on these forums want PLD turned into a WAR or DRK facsimile for the sake of increasing its DPS.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Seshayn Anea
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    I will continue being an awesome paladin. I will continue to be better than dark knights and warriors at my role. Your "popular opinions" about the state of the game can continue to be what they are. Both popular and opinions. Just remember, just because something is widely accepted doesn't mean it's right. Is the world still flat? Is Justin Beiber music good? My sword cuts through your fads and my shield blocks their influence. I am a rock, and though surrounded by a veritable sea of idiocy, I shall stand, the lone island, the safe haven, sheltering those who would choose the desolate isolation of intelligence rather than be dragged down and succumb to the loud, crashing waves of the ocean of mediocrity you call strength warriors and derp knights.

    Good day sir.



    #gitvit or #gitout

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    Last edited by Seshayn; 09-06-2015 at 04:09 AM.

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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    The problem is not PLD's design, but the fact the devs allowed the tank meta to focus on DPS. That in itself is the result of not designing tanks to keep them tanking in their tank stance (since a good part of the DPS issue wouldn't exist if they had; all it would mean is that raids would have had to spend an extra week or two or esoterics to gear their DPS appropriately to meet the checks in Alexander).

    The desire for "simple" comes from the fact half the people on these forums want PLD turned into a WAR or DRK facsimile for the sake of increasing its DPS.
    Absolutely. The Paladin itself is the last thing people should be focusing on right now. What needs a fix is the majority of the systems currently surrounding Tanking. Then, and only then, can we truly see where the balances of the Tanks currently stand.

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    A Tempered Will and some fine Pikatures
    You win, sir. That is all.
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    This is a pretty funny joke thread.
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    Murah Jhida
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    itt: paladins mad that they now have to compete instead of be the inarguable "best mt" 24/7

    shifting metas are great because they reveal who's actually pushing their job and who was using it as a ticket to coast
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    Last edited by Krr; 09-06-2015 at 04:42 AM.
    video games are bad

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    Pic always related.
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