Idea: Split Archer into Bard and Ranger

[Alahra]

I have a feeling they consider Ranger to be represented by Archer, in much the same way that the traditional FF Thief is represented by Rogue. I really want to see Ranger and Thief both, if only to have access to proper Artifact Armor for them, but I don't think either case is likely.

[Eloah]

I have a feeling they consider Ranger to be represented by Archer, in much the same way that the traditional FF Thief is represented by Rogue. I really want to see Ranger and Thief both, if only to have access to proper Artifact Armor for them, but I don't think either case is likely.

This is basically the idea behind the reason why we have Ninja and Bard over Ranger and Thief. Certain Jobs in the Final Fantasy universe have almost the exact same purpose, or are merely name swaps for one another. This helps explain why they merged certain jobs for XIV. Just rememebr in yhe first ever FF game you start out as a Thief but upgrade to a Ninja, same principle. I remember giving a listing of all FF games and how some either had a Thief or a Ninja, and those with both kept their skills vastly different. Though, I will admit, merging Archer/Ranger with Bard does seem a tad strange, but within the lore of this game it does make sense, I guess, lol.

EDIT: Here is the post I made in the other thread regarding Thief and Ninja within the FF Universe.

While the idea sounds nice, I doubt it would work. A Theif just wouldn't fit I a game like this. Most of the time Ninja is an upgrade to Thief, or they are just merged together.

I had some time so I compiled this list, lol?

Games where Ninja is an upgrade for Thief
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy V (Because the abilities can be customized)
Final Fantasy XI (Though it was optional, the common thing to do was sub Ninja onto Thief to aid them with the skill base they already had, similar to XIV now)
Final Fantasy XIV
Final Fantasy Dimensions (Both jobs have their usage, but because of customization, Ninja will be used more than Thief; though it should be noted that only half of the playable cast gets Ninja)

Games where they are seperate but equally viable
Final Fantasy III (mostly because the abilities couldn't be customized)
Final Fantasy VI (Locke and Shadow both have value to the party because of customization)
Final Fantasy XI (Because this game had no gathering/crafting classes Thiefs provided the additional out of combat skills to aid in those kinds of tasks)
Final Fantasy Tactics [every game] (Thiefs and Ninja each have different usage, though it should be noted, Ninja is unlock by using Thief)
Bravely Default (Each job has its purpose and each one can use the others moves.

Games that have only one, usually combining them
Final Fantasy IV (Edge is a Ninja but has Thief skills)
Final Fantasy VII (Yuffie is classified as a Ninja, but is played as a Thief, though because of customization anyone can be a "Thief")
Final Fantasy IX (Zidane is a Thief, and while technically a Monk, Amarant has some classic Ninja/Samurai moves)
Final Fantasy X (Rikku is the only Thief, though anyone can learn Steal, Mug, and Use, she is the only one who can steal from machines to kill them)
Final Fantasy X-2 (There is no Ninja Dressphere only a Thief)
Final Fantasy XII: IZJS (The Shikari job mimics a Ninja)
Final Fantasy XII: RW (The Ninja is a class available only to Sky Pirates, ie this games Thieves; though it should be noted they are only classified as thieves, its not the Job they hold in battle.)