Astrologians were fine the way they were!

[SenzorialBoundries]

They NEEDED them, this is a fact, Most groups didn't wanted to bring AST to raids due to how harder they had to work vs the other 2 healers, and even with the buffs i seriously doubt you'll see groups saying "screw whm and sch bring AST." The simple fact is AST needed to do it's job as a healer without feeling like the fat kid in PE. He can do it. but not without a great amount of effort.

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

[AlphaSonic]

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

As if we could use diurnal and nocturnal at the same time...

Oh, do you know which Job can Shield and Regen at the same time? Scholar.

[SenzorialBoundries]

As if we could use diurnal and nocturnal at the same time...

Oh, do you know which Job can Shield and Regen at the same time? Scholar.

regen what? any respecable scholar uses selene and not eos.

[Cynfael]

regen what? any respecable scholar uses selene and not eos.

Now, now, let's not overgeneralize. We already have a thread about why and when to use which one.

[AlphaSonic]

regen what? any respecable scholar uses selene and not eos.

I'm not talking about Whispering Dawn. I'm talking about the fact that your fairy is by itself a regen.

[Cupcakesu]

regen what? any respecable scholar uses selene and not eos.

That same argument can be used with Astrologian. Most will still probably use Diurnal because it's still more MP-efficient and pumps out the most healing. That means they won't have shields at all.

[Alahra]

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

But they still have fewer burst healing cooldowns, have fewer MP management options, and have more mana intensive DPS options. AST doesn't have everything the other healers have and the other healers don't have everything AST has. The only difference now is that the base healing kit is equal and AST's non-healing contributions are on par with the other two.

[Blood-Aki]

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

the thing is they are NOT on par.. is where i see you're confused, WHM is still a much more power fulburst healer, and SCH is still top mitigation healer. AS well as giving out great DPS numbers, AST still has trouble throwing out DPS numbers without eating a lot of MP, they don't have a pet to back them up.

[Xenohart]

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

That would be nice, except we dont have that yet. We can only do one or the other, not both, during any given fight. It'd make sense not to increase potency if we could use both simultaneously. Whatever flexibility it may appear we have out of combat means nothing, all that matters is what we can do in combat.

[PetiteMalFleur]

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

You don't have whm or ast leveled so you have no idea how powerful whm is and how weak ast was before these buffs. I am also willing to bet you've done no savage raiding to know how demanding this tier is or what it takes to actually clear this content. Ast was excluded from nearly all serious progression groups and for good reason. People aren't going to be kicking out whm or sch in favor of ast.

I farmed Alexander normal with my ast and due to the other healer (and others) dying I was able to utilize my emergency toolkit to maintain the party. I still found it slightly more challenging than it would have been on my scholar or whm but I felt confident enough with the buffs to prolong the fights to clear them.

The card buffs are still a gimmick next to what our actual job is and the buffs are still so rng based they can hardly be taken in to account when looking at ast viability. I still lack the strong burst heals of a WHM or SCH. I still lack the dps output of a WHM or SCH. I still lack the reliable party buffs scholar bring. That isn't too say ast is worse than their two counterparts but it's a whole different playstyle with some nice party buffs to make up for where they would otherwise fall short.

Before making these absurd, posts then defend your ignorance for 11 pages, please go level your other healing jobs. Go work on savage turns then come back and share your pov of what you feel is overpowered.