5 Million Accounts - Japan Expo

[_Pigzig]

how many of those accounts are
"hello new gift for you
30USD/10000k
at blahblah.com"

[Canadane]

Would be nice to see some subscription numbers or server population numbers.
But registered accounts is something, I guess!

[Starlord]

The que as a DD is not as long as before. This expansion is probably what this game need for the pop in FFXIV to rise!

[Terribad]

5 million accounts does not = active subscription and basically means nothing.

The fact that they won't release actual active subscription numbers is very interesting.

[Enkidoh]

Or maybe the whole reason for that is, active subscriptions vary wildly over time while registered accounts is a static number and thus are more 'concrete'? But then, there are too many people on this forum who for some reason want this game to fail, and hence tout this same rubbish over and over that 'active subscriptions are declining/extremely low,' and use outdated/inaccurate information from unreliable sources to back up their paranoid claims. If subs were so low, why are most servers congested and thus locked to new character creation (based on the amount of threads on this forum from players complaining about that)? Wouldn't SE have done a server merge a long time ago if sub numbers really were at ridiculously low number mentioned earlier in this thread?

Common sense is needed here. The game is healthy subscription wise. If it wasn't, SE would have actually admitted it long ago (like they did with 1.0). So enough of the doomsaying - people actually may actually start to believe these lies (that the game is dire straits subscription wise, which it most definitely is not).

[Catwho]

I think the key word is "healthy." ARR's goal was never to be a WoW killer, it was to salvage the IP and Square Enix's reputation as a maker of quality RPGs. In that sense, it was successful beyond all expectation. Maintaining a healthy population on top of that success is a very definite win for SE, regardless of the total number of registered accounts. As long as the subs are making SE money, they are happy.

[Charisma]

With ffxi,ffxiv and dragon quest as of start of this year had less then 1m sub together lmao. By now ffxiv should have a little over 800k active users but that going to go down once WoW release there new pack.

Im not sure if you noticed, but WoW is dying, and guess what, legion isnt going to stop it.

[Terribad]

Or maybe the whole reason for that is, active subscriptions vary wildly over time while registered accounts is a static number and thus are more 'concrete'?

False, registered accounts literally means nothing, they're just counting all accounts, even accounts of people who cancelled subs. Plus people with multiple accounts with no active subscription. Active subs gives you a general idea of how the game is doing and how much they're making because it tells you how many people are paying.

No one is saying the game isn't healthy nor is anyone on this thread doomsaying it's just obviously the active subscription isn't anywhere near 5 million and they way they keep throwing "accounts" around is kind of misleading.

Actually, registered accounts IS in fact comparable to the box sales number of GW2. The client for this game isn't free. If you registered an account, it means you bought a copy of the game, whether you're actively playing or not. That's a very important point to remember.

Paying 30 bucks and then never playing again in a subscription based game doesn't hold the same weight as an active subscription. If you're trying to figure out how much money they're making then yeah. But most people look at active subs to how many people are playing and steady income.

[Catwho]

Actually, registered accounts IS in fact comparable to the box sales number of GW2. The client for this game isn't free. If you registered an account, it means you bought a copy of the game, whether you're actively playing or not. That's a very important point to remember.

Edit: I know it doesn't hold the same weight against a game that has an active subscription, e.g. WoW, but I specifically mentioned GW2 for that reason. The box sale price for GW2 was $39.99 at launch - so five million box copies of that is the same as for five million box copies of ARR. That is an apples to apples comparison.

[Kumop]

-.- So much for wanting a positive thread...

Anyways, my two cents is that regardless of whether or not the subscription number is that high, as Catwho mentioned over 5 million people have bought the game and registered it on the Mog Station, so in that sense Square Enix is already onto a winner (ARR £19.99+, Heavensward £29.99+), granted not everyone of those will have the expansion but to see the game doing so well considering the disappointment of 1.0 is no mean feat and I felt that SE, Yoshi and the Dev Team deserved some congratulations for creating a (IMO!) very fun, exciting MMO given the current climate of MMO's going free to play.

Aslong as they keep doing what they are doing I expect the numbers to grow, and the good times to keep coming.