Did Yoshi P messed up the relics Im trying to understand the meaning of this help me!

[Ashkendor]

You want the relic do it like everyone else. These handouts are a messed up joke and a disrespect to me and many others who feel this way. These should have been untouched but this is what we get when a game dev comes directly from a WoW and DAoC envoirment. If you think about it its one lousy thing. You don't see me complaining about why there is no dynamis in this thread or why no other gears is upgradable. Ive accepted everything but I don't tolerate this.

This is no more a "disrespect" to people that have a zeta than Echo is a "disrespect" to raiders. More than anything, it seems like you're just upset that people are able to get your special shinies more easily than you did. People take this crap way too personally. Look, Yoshi P didn't just wake up one day and try to think up a way to piss off the playerbase. This is a vertical progression MMO. That means gear gets outdated, and when it's outdated it becomes more accessible. I can't imagine trying to do the original light grind now when it sometimes takes DPS over an hour just to get into a hard mode trial (yes, seriously, over an hour; it's pretty nuts).

So, when you did your relic, what did you get for your time? You got a weapon that was at the time BiS or close to it. You got the lore that went with each step (some of it was admittedly better than others, but still more lore than the raid drops have). Now, the game has moved on from those relics. They can be replaced by green dungeon drops around 55-56. We don't have horizontal progression (and thank god for that, collecting multiple rare gear sets for one class is not my cup of tea), so once an item is outdated it's basically just something pretty to look at.

What gets me is you're kicking and screaming about the old relic quest being made more accessible when we don't even know what the new relic will be like. Would it have been kinda cool for them to continue from the old relic? From our standpoint, sure. Some more cool lore, building more on what we already had, might've been fun. From the standpoint of new and returning players having the new relic gated behind the old Zeta, not so much. They've taken the expansion and made it an opportunity to kind of "reboot" the game for those players. It's been said that people with completed Zetas will get some sort of consideration in the new relic quest. We just don't know what exact form that consideration will take because they haven't released any further details.

[LystAP]

Maybe with the announcements of Artifact weapons in WoW, they'll make similar adjustments in our relics?

[Ryaz]

I hope the Zetas don't get TOO much consideration. The new jobs don't even get a regular relic weapon to upgrade, so if a job's Zeta weapon is needed for something important or really cool, it would really suck for the new jobs who don't even have to option to go back and grind for one.

[Colorful]

I hope the Zetas don't get TOO much consideration. The new jobs don't even get a regular relic season to upgrade, so if a job's Zeta weapon is needed for something important or really cool, it would really suck for the new jobs who don't even have to option to go back and grind for one.

They could easily make it so you turn in any Zeta for whatever they're planning, and use that for a different class.

[Velhart]

They could easily make it so you turn in any Zeta for whatever they're planning, and use that for a different class.

Probably some new point/light system and the Zeta will give you a small bonus towards whatever base weapon you are starting next. Or not, SE has a weird way of doing things.

[Ayerinn]

I wanna see this too. Only thing that has been said that Zeta owners are getting "consideration" for 3.1 relic.

It's nice that they may be doing something for owners of the OLD relic as personally I don't think people "deserve" any consideration at all. You worked your ass off for the sometimes BiS weapon, had use of it for the entirety of ARR and now have a multitude of unique glamour weapons to use in HW - no further consideration is needed for a new, completely separate relic quest line.

[Colorful]

Probably some new point/light system and the Zeta will give you a small bonus towards whatever base weapon you are starting next. Or not, SE has a weird way of doing things.

I'd love for it to be a light based system rather than RNG, even if the Zeta bonus was only around 250-500/2000 light (assuming it could that high). A minion or something would be better though.

I just hope it isn't completely insignificant, like text just acknowledging that you did it.

[Qamaqi]

I dont undersand why to say ffxi is a demonic word, almost as bad as WoW, OP is not asking to be this game a FFXI clone, He only asks that his hard work will not fall through like everyone else will do. It is so clear who is negative in a good way and who is a negative just to troll (white knights here). I came from ffxi and wow,I quit wow cuz got tired of this whole item level grind patch after patch, while I stayed in XI because the items remained in force since its first expansion until eight years later. Many of my WoW friends came to FFXIV with me, they quit 6 months later or sooner when they realised how this item level race will go or just how similar it is to wow. Now will come the trolls coming to tell it is better if they don't stay here but that is not the problem, this game is getting tiresome.

[Qamaqi]

WOW is now a "super casual" game (that casual does not mean playing a few hours but not be committed and get things effortlessly and time), while it seems that most of their players are children, is it that the aim of yoshi?
Had this talk with two friends last friday, the answer was the same like 1 year ago, if they would want to play WoW why will hey pick XIV instead? knowing both games are more similar than different. Yoshi needs to make this game unique and rewarding, not being a clone to XI or WoW or any other, I am still waiting for the real reborn of this game.
Just to finish, Yoshi and SE do care of XI's players, otherwise why would they use the XI's char/mob models here, they could use any other ff even XIV instead.

[Assirra]

Maybe with the announcements of Artifact weapons in WoW, they'll make similar adjustments in our relics?

Considering artifact weapons in wow are the ONLY weapon you get the whole expansion, it will be a lot easier then here.