Malboro Jumbo Cactpot

[ServerCollaps]

are you really complaining about something like 10 or 20 mgp per week?

I'm getting +7 in most cases anyway

[AnnietheCat]

are you really complaining about something like 10 or 20 mgp per week?

You're forgetting that each server is different and that size and participation is totally different. On Siren, it's a steady loss for us. Granted, it's 2-4 gil per week, but still a loss. Yes, it's a lottery system. But you can control the programming of this lottery system. We've had two winners since the GS was introduced. It isn't a matter of this system being unfair; it's unbelievably frustrating to make an effort for this thing while still knowing we don't have a snowball's chance in hell at winning it.

[LeeraSorlan]

You're forgetting that each server is different and that size and participation is totally different. On Siren, it's a steady loss for us. Granted, it's 2-4 gil per week, but still a loss. Yes, it's a lottery system. But you can control the programming of this lottery system. We've had two winners since the GS was introduced. It isn't a matter of this system being unfair; it's unbelievably frustrating to make an effort for this thing while still knowing we don't have a snowball's chance in hell at winning it.

Effort? Im so sorry you had to take 5 minutes out of your week to go click a few buttons and then return a week later and click more buttons.
Face it, its not unfair, its not time consuming and requires no effort, its just somthing you do whenever your in the GS, if you win, great.
If you dont? Try next week. Thats the entire point, doesnt matter if the devs can control it. Its a luck based system and you shouldnt be rewarded for being unlucky

[AnnietheCat]

But questioning why it's soooo RNG based at all is important. If the number of ticket sales is low, RNG should account for that. If it's high, it should account for that. There are many many times no one wins more than the consolation prize. And when you go literally months where no one wins, people get discouraged and stop participating. "I'm not going to win, so why bother"; that's what I'm talking about. No one even goes to the GS any more on Siren, sales of JC tickets are abysmal. I'm not saying reward people for being unlucky. I'm saying this controlled system should be a little more controlled so that it isn't month after month with not a single winner. It's obnoxious and frustrating, and when the rest of the game is so grindy people aren't going to go grind away their time at the gs for some minimally beneficial prizes. If the GS was actually fun any more, people would be there.

[LeeraSorlan]

. And when you go literally months where no one wins, people get discouraged and stop participating. "I'm not going to win, so why bother"; that's what I'm talking about. No one even goes to the GS any more on Siren, sales of JC tickets are abysmal. I'm not saying reward people for being unlucky. I'm saying this controlled system should be a little more controlled so that it isn't month after month with not a single winner. It's obnoxious and frustrating, and when the rest of the game is so grindy people aren't going to go grind away their time at the gs for some minimally benef.

This sounds like a Gold saucer Problem not a Lottery problem imo.I am one of the people you describe, i rarely go to the GS because theres nothing to do, but thats unrelated to the lottery. I just cant find the reasoning behind letting more people win in an RNG situation.
At best id be ok with a roulette of 3 numbers instead of 4. But as is it does what its meant to do

[JoolzS]

The right to left thing of the numbers just seems so wrong. Saw a post on reddit yesterday where the winning number was something like 9526 and their ticket was 9524 - so they just got the consolation prize. My best week was when I accidentally hit "purchase" instead of "random" and bought a ticket that was 0000 and got the prize just above the consolation because the right hand side number was 0. It either needs to become an actual lottery, or a raffle so that at least one person wins each week.

[Nepthys]

Well Jumbo needs to be fixed as current state is just wrong... normal lottery doesnt care about number positionals if you have 1-2-3-5 on your ticket and the winning numbers were 2-3-4-5 you still get 2-3-5 as winning. There was a time where I had 3numbers the same as the winning numbers... but the right one was different.. so I got consolation prize >_<. They should kick out the number positionals and let people win higher prizes.

[Magistrella]

Biggest problem most people have with it:

1. It's boring content with no real value. On Moogle two people won in 5 month. Then suddenly 4 people won in 4 weeks.
2. It's bound to two achievements:
   
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   Which makes them unreachable - hence why i didnt bother with the rest
3. You can win more MGP per day from the mini cactpot then the average Joe won since the release of the Jumbo cactpot - I don't know what people call active demotivation, but for me, thats a good example for it
4. The more people give up playing the worse it gets. Less tickets, lower rewards and less winners, lower rewards and less winners equals more demotiavtion and less people and we just went full circle

[Niwashi]

The rewards seem to have actually decreased pretty dramatically. For the first few months when it came out, the consolation prize was usually near (and sometimes higher than) the cost of the ticket, so you could get the ticket each week figuring you'll probably break even but maybe win something if you're lucky. Now the last month or two, the consolation prizes are typically running around 60 MGP or so, so that now unless you win something, you're down by 40 points. The rewards are too meager for something where 9 times out of 10 you'll be actively losing points like that.

Some of this change is due to fewer people playing, so we no longer get the top tier or two of bonus rewards, but most of the time even adding those wouldn't get the payout up to the level it had generally been when the Gold Saucer released.

[Eye_Gore]

Got all excited this past Sunday when I went to check it out. Checked the ticket and before the screen came up an achievement flashed across the screen, was like whoo-hoo. Then the screen came up, got the last two numbers and missed the other two by one digit each, good for just above 10k, closest I ever got. Don't really see it as boring content, just something else in game. Not like you buy the ticket then stand there for a week waiting, that would be pretty boring.