[SPOILER] Who or What is Unukalhai?

[Kaiser-Ace]

Yea, I'm pretty sure he's a (Poorly) disguised Elidibus. After all, he needs us to kill Bismark, Ravana, and probably at some point the warring triad (As apparently Primals and Eikons can even eat Ascian souls once their physical forms have been weakened) and it'd make since for him to be disguised since our Auracite trick combined with our blessing of light could end up killing him too. (Personally I still want to introduce this guy to the Sharp end of my Nexus Weapon even if Urainge says to hold off for now.)

[treuhavik]

could ununkalhai also want us to slay ravana and bismark so their aether is absorbed by something OR to it be absorbed by the warrior of light as the ''WoL is becoming a primal'' theory?

Idk about us becoming a primal but...

Tell me: why do you despise the primals so? They are the embodiment of mortal will─of mortal desire. Plainly, you desire a foe to despise. And 'tis well that you do, for it is from the vortex of ceaseless conflict that Lord Zodiark shall be reborn.

Through the Joining, the world shall become whole again. Then all shall be as once it was─as it should ever have remained

We're definitely playing into their hands in some way by slaying all these primals.

EDIT: I highly doubt the Ascians would intentionally create through us a power rivaling their own god. My guess is that it still has something to do with the displacement of aether.

[-Krypyonite-]

could be creating imbalance so elidibus (actually elidibus seems like the best ascian (if we may call him) he seems to be the calmer and defo less agressive, even comes to talk to us calmly, and disapproves other ascians actions against us.)

by doing so, looks like elidibus is ''forced '' to call over the warrior of darkness for ''him and his own to join the frey''

[Dalvy]

He could very well be a minion of Elidibus, like the black masked Ascians in the SMN quests are minions of Lahabrea.

[-Krypyonite-]

how do you know they are lahabrea minions? i don't remember any reference btu might have overlooked it.

[Echofalls]

how do you know they are lahabrea minions? i don't remember any reference btu might have overlooked it.

I believe that one of them mentions that they're doing this for "Master Lahabrea", or something along those lines.

[-Krypyonite-]

to the inn !

edit : yeah on the cutcene of lvl 60 quest it says that we ( WoL ) defeated lahabrea, then in another line : ''you defeated my master..'' - said the Ascian of the twelfth chalice.

so, techinicly, Unukalhai would be one of those weaker ascians that can be defeated quickly?

well, taking in mind that in the smn quest:

we may have beaten it or not, and if we did, was with bahamuth's power

I really can't wait to see whats coming on 3.1...

[Eisen-Zorn]

I am beginning to wonder of Urianger is somehow related to the character Travanchet that seemed to be connected to the Ascians in 1.0. Both of these characters are mysteriously connected to the Ascians, but Urianger more so than the other. Also, is it not suspicious that Urianger has always been the NPC that deals with studying, identifying, and overseeing all of the Primal threat? I mean, a mysterious Elezen mage who clearly has ties with the Ascians, the people who know how to summon Primals, is the go to guy for Primal summoning?

I don't care if Moonbryda and the others have "known" him for years. The dude is straight up suspicious.

As for Travanchet? He was an Elezen who wielded magic, but, like the Ascians, did not cast a shadow. Also, Travanchet stole the Seal Rock key from Y'shtola before he vanished, and with Seal Rock now appearing as part of the PvP arenas, I'd guess we might be learning more about that in the future.

[Mimilu]

I am beginning to wonder of Urianger is somehow related to the character Travanchet that seemed to be connected to the Ascians in 1.0.

Quick, someone check to see if Urianger has a shadow. >o>

[Eisen-Zorn]

Idk about us becoming a primal but...





We're definitely playing into their hands in some way by slaying all these primals.

EDIT: I highly doubt the Ascians would intentionally create through us a power rivaling their own god. My guess is that it still has something to do with the displacement of aether.

I am convinced that the WoL is already a Primal. I also believe that Thordan's reaction to us at the end of Heavensward is almost a confirmation of this.

The reason I believe this is something that was mentioned at the very beginning of A Realm Reborn when your character is told about the Warriors of Light. Remember, the people of Eorzea cannot remember your character from before The Calamity. You're told that any attempt to recall them is thwarted because, and I'm trying to remember the quote, "It's like they're standing in front of a blinding light that keeps them hidden from our minds."

Also, remember what Tiamat says when she talks about her summoning of Bahamut. She succeeded in bringing him back, but he was different from before. He came back, but as her emotions were twisted about his death, he was twisted also. The Bahamut that was recalled was an angry, vengeful shadow of Bahamut. Fast forward to Thordan dying before the Warrior of Light, and as he looks at the WoL you see a similar scene to what is described to your character when the people of Eorzea try to remember the Warriors of Light from before The Calamity. However, your character isn't distorted by light, they are distorted by shadow.

The Primals themselves do not appear to even realize that they are Primals. They, through the faith of who summon them, fully believe that they are Ifrit, Garuda, Shiva, etc., and not some version born from a wish. Also, the Warrior of Light mysteriously appeared at Eorzea's time of need, and at the behest of the largest crystal in all of Hydaelyn. It's possible, that when Luoisoux casted what now appears to be Flow, the Warrior of Light's aether was sent in to the Life Stream and the will of the people summoned them back. I mean, look at Y'shtola after her aether was summoned back from the Life Stream. Something has changed in her, and Matoya saw it.