The Ban of White Magic/Black Magic

[lilirulu]

Conjury is borrowing the aether from surroundings to cast (usually) healing magics, Thamuturgy is the same but for destructive magics. Black/White Magic is simply more advanced forms of that.

Using ones internal "well of aether" (or lifeforce) will kill you. This is stated during the Conjurer quest as Slyphie, and her mother, has/had a large internal well of aether that allows her to cast magics without actually knowing how to pull in aether from her surroundings*. Over the course of the storyline Slyphie eventually gets sick from doing this and Slyphie's mother died from doing it. Furthermore, after Gubal Library, Matoya tells Y'sholta if she keeps using her own aether to allow herself to see she'll eventually kill herself too.

*Safe to assume: That most people don't have enough aether to allow them to cast any magic without drawing from there surroundings.

As far a Nymians and the War of Magi. I got the impression they were never apart of it willingly but were simply defending themselves. And, prior to that era's calamity, had most likely already been turned into Tonberries by the Mhach and put into stasis by Surito. I doubt the Scholars of Nym were feared by there populace because they were described as an important member of the nymian military.

[Zohar_Lahar]

According to the story of the Last Resort, at least one scholar aided survivors of the Sixth Umbral Calamity.

[liljramos88]

Ok so wats the relationship of white magic and well necromany. Look at edda atnd than the lvl 60 whm quest with the zombie dragon and the skelly

[Kaiser-Ace]

Ok so wats the relationship of white magic and well necromany. Look at edda atnd than the lvl 60 whm quest with the zombie dragon and the skelly

Im assuming, when intentionlly misused like with the amdapori, that White Magic can be used to defy and/or out right break the laws of nature.

[PogueX]

wasn't both the blue and red mage more of a control character. And that would be kind of a problem in a MMO cause what role would they play? More DPS? Healer? It seems like some of the final fantasy jobs just won't fit right into an MMO format. I know their was a job that could mimic the skills of the enemy (maybe that was the blue mage), how would that translate into an MMO?

[Neophyte]

wasn't both the blue and red mage more of a control character. And that would be kind of a problem in a MMO cause what role would they play? More DPS? Healer? It seems like some of the final fantasy jobs just won't fit right into an MMO format. I know their was a job that could mimic the skills of the enemy (maybe that was the blue mage), how would that translate into an MMO?

Quite easy, those special Enemy-Abilities would be earned by jobquests. Since new jobs will propably start at 30 you can do a big start quest were you confront monsters for your start abilities and then get new ones after each jobquest (involving monsters as well) and fill in some 'common' skills (like SMN's Ruin).
Tbh it's just animation+potency+add. effect+(CD/Spell duration/costs) for every attack command, isn't it?

They'd have to alter some abilities a bit.. they could make 'white wind' erasing one debuff and some effect like mantra for example.
And others like 'goblin punch', 'laser', 'flamethrower', 'trine' or '1000 needles' should be easy to implement. Perhaps 'Magic hammer' for manareg?

[Belhi]

Ok so wats the relationship of white magic and well necromany. Look at edda atnd than the lvl 60 whm quest with the zombie dragon and the skelly

Edda and the Taint seem to be different. Edda's journal made it pretty clear she was using souls to power her undead. The undead at the end of WHM story are empty corpses animated with Aether.

That said, both might be linked to WHM and its abuse. We know the amdipori who mastered WHM used it in binding voidsent to stone to build their cities or at least its very heavily impled. Thus WHM could perhaps be used for binding life and maybe souls to non living substances.

As for the other I heavily suspect we may find it has links to WHM. The taint was effectly a 'wound' in the Aether of the natural world. It was a bleeding fountain of aether that attracted the undead to it and disrupted the Aetheric beings nearby. At least that's the way the lvl 58 quest seemed to describe it.

[Dalvy]

You know what I've wondered?

I just started rolling through BLM 50+ quests, and it seems like Gridania's conjuror guild will send agents to squash Black Magic practitioners as soon as they catch wind of it. On top of limiting white mage to only padjal and the WoL. Sure, they say it's for safety measures, but it smells like a monopoly to me.

[Belhi]

You know what I've wondered?

I just started rolling through BLM 50+ quests, and it seems like Gridania's conjuror guild will send agents to squash Black Magic practitioners as soon as they catch wind of it. On top of limiting white mage to only padjal and the WoL. Sure, they say it's for safety measures, but it smells like a monopoly to me.

Black Magic is a forbidden art in Ul'dah too.

Gridania doesn't use Black Magic and frankly there is very good reasons to keep it seriously regulated. Frankly I think both the WHM and BLM questlines offer reasons why that is. Both forms of magic are very powerful and history shows are very easily exploited in ways that cause severe damage. The nation that Black Magic originated from seems to have been pretty nasty if the SCH quests are anything to go by and the war between the Magic nations lead to a calamity that drowned the world.

Its like if the world had just been devastated with Nuclear weapons, people would probably be really anti nuclear. In reality neither magic is evil. They just are. Its that the potential for abuse is very high.

[myahele]

I just realized. Perhaps the one of the reasons why Gridania has SO many voidsent running lose is due to the voidsent that were bound in stone to create buildings finally being released due to the Calamity + weakening of the Elementals?