Did Yoshi P messed up the relics Im trying to understand the meaning of this help me!

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before but I would like to adress the following.

This game is already very easy when it comes to obtain weekly currency to cap and get weapons with it.

Getting the relics from 2.0 was a huge timesink and a gil sink.
Was it fair to us who devoted time getting gil for materias and dedicating time for relic drops timesink with dungeon drops lights and books?

Me personally and this is my own personal opinion I truly feel disrespected and used as a player by Yoshi P. The only joy this game had that made you feel you earned these weapons was taken away from you over night. I truly dont understand this whole just because I pay for a subscription I'm entitled to everything everyone else has with half the effort by waiting it out.

IMO Its not fair to any player who dedicated time for this. It takes away the enjoyment and the reward. Yoshi P nerfed pretty much everything why couldnt this be untouched? Not everything must be handed out to players just because they pay for a subscription.

Respect your players who wants one thing to still remain enjoyable rewarding and unique

[Moonleg]

1) People with a zeta have been promised 'consideration' when the Heavensward relic quest line begins in 3.1
2) Traditionally, an expansion to an MMO means that all the stuff you had becomes effectively useless. It has always been this way and will always be this way, otherwise newer players will always be years behind with no realistic way of catching up.

What you GOT from your investment was months of being at the top of the line; not an eternal place among the stars.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Please know I'm not on some high horse by all means everyone should have a relic but everyone should get it the same equal way everyone else did. Its already a mess that IV materias are way cheaper now making all the millions of gil invested in the relic down the drain. I know I'm negative I have the right to be negative when I feel something is not right. "New relic chapter" is just a bogus way of scrapping 2.0 altogether. Make old content enjoyable instead by letting you put effort in for your relics backtracking old dungeons with your FC mates or LS mates etc. Why did probably the only thing in this game that was meant as a grind and rewarding get destroyed so quick. You can only get away with this once anyways if the "new relic chapter" is exactly the same as before it will be less players doing relics.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's the OP again.

And I don't think I really want to go through the song and dance all over again with the relics. It was beaten to death ages ago when 3.0 was just a preview.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Moonleg: FFXI was never like that so i have no idea wich MMO you are talking about? I came from FFXI straight to FFXIV. My burtgang lasted a good long time in FFXI took a while to get it too. It was enjoyable it felt rewarding and I felt i acheived something. All I'm saying is if you want a Zeta get it the same way everyone else did no silly handouts.

[Ashkendor]

Old content gets nerfed. Such is the nature of an upward progression themepark MMO. Deal with it.

Why would they make people go through the same grind now that it's just a glamour piece?

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Milessaintborough: That is the whole point. The Relic should not have been for everyone. Make it enjoyable and rewarding. Yoshi P turned the relic into that Oprah episode pretty much with YOU GET A RELIC YOU GET A RELIC EVERYONE GETS A REEEELIC!!!!
Thats so corny. If you want a glowy i200 weapon grind it without any handouts if not save your esoterics for 3 weeks get a i200 that does not glow the end (was an example).

[KaedrianLiang]

This OP again. a few threads back you put "quitting the game" on the table, along with one of your usual rants against the game or directly at mr.y-p.

Why are you still here?

[Kiara1]

I don't care much about the nerfs, I got my relic prenerfs and well that makes me better than everyone else!
Okay joking aside

If they weren't nerfed now, it would be EVEN harder for new people to get it.
Especially the farming light part since there arent lots of light parties.
And I prefered to do WoD instead of primals to farm mahatmas, now queuetimes are stupidly long for WoD

Even though I am very against nerfing anything that doesn't have a big balance issue (maybe it would be called a fix more than a nerf) this is one of the things they kinda HAVE to nerf.

Make threads against nerfing mechanics in raids, and putting in pillows at titan ex instead and I'll agree with you!

[Moonleg]

Skizzle: I am talking about Everquest, Anarchy Online, WoW, Rift, and likely a bunch of other MMOs I haven't tried long enough to see the changes into an expansion.

Think of it this way; if stuff that was obtained during the base game of an expansion was still the best of the best three expansions later ... why would anyone even buy and play the expansions? It's not like they get better gear, they already have best-in-slot and have had that for years. There would be no gear progression at all, and people would drop out of the game because it felt stale. This way you get something new to aim for.