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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    But lorewise? why would they feel the need to hide their genders when they don't discriminate by gender in the military?
    i imagine it is the same reason some women did that in the real world even after they stopped discriminating on gender in army and such there were people that wouldn't take them seriously and it slowed down there promotions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragoelete View Post
    i imagine it is the same reason some women did that in the real world even after they stopped discriminating on gender in army and such there were people that wouldn't take them seriously and it slowed down there promotions...
    Except we have Exhibit A, Livia sas Junius, third in command of the Rogue XIVth. Everyone takes her completely seriously and with good reason.

    ... considering Livia and Lucia are the only known female Garleans, and Livia was third in command of the Rogue XIVth, what little we have does not point to sexism in the Garlean military. (Plus there's the possibility van Darnus was always a woman in the Japanese script.)
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Except we have Exhibit A, Livia sas Junius, third in command of the Rogue XIVth. Everyone takes her completely seriously and with good reason.

    ... considering Livia and Lucia are the only known female Garleans, and Livia was third in command of the Rogue XIVth, what little we have does not point to sexism in the Garlean military. (Plus there's the possibility van Darnus was always a woman in the Japanese script.)
    The XIV legon is exceptionally unbiggoted thlugh. Rhitahn having a higher rank than infantry wouldnt have happened outside of the XIVth. Gaius just values (Valued?) merit over blood by his own admittence. So it's possible that biggotry in the other Legions is a very real issue.

    (Geez I wish/hope Gaius is still alive. I really could have seen him being an ally under diffrent circumstances.)
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    The XIV legon is exceptionally unbiggoted thlugh. Rhitahn having a higher rank than infantry wouldnt have happened outside of the XIVth. Gaius just values (Valued?) merit over blood by his own admittence. So it's possible that biggotry in the other Legions is a very real issue.

    (Geez I wish/hope Gaius is still alive. I really could have seen him being an ally under diffrent circumstances.)
    Ehh... the XIVth is more meritocratic than the other legions (supposedly), but that's just in regards to nationalism. There's never been anything said as to whether or not the Garlean military is sexist; conversely, there's direct statements that the Garlean military is very nationalistic, demanding conscripts serve a full 20 years before they even get basic citizenship. We have Livia as 3rd in command of the XIVth and nothing stating there's sexism in the Garlean military; we have Rhitatyn as co-3rd (or 4th?) in command of the XIVth and statements that he's an exception.
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  5. #65
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    The empire as a whole preaches that they will give high status to those who earn it regardless of race or gender, if it was just one legion or so mentioning this than maybe the different legions would be more bigoted than others.
    I imagine there would be some garleans with racist views no doubt about it but the empire as a whole mentions that you can earn your place regardless of your background or history. I doubt that anyone else but a garlean could hope to attain command over a legion or any other higher ranks but we do know little about their culture so who knows.
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    Has anyone thought for a moment that Regula might actually be one of our missing Scions? I mean, obviously not Papalymo, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisen-Zorn View Post
    Has anyone thought for a moment that Regula might actually be one of our missing Scions? I mean, obviously not Papalymo, but still.
    Uh, No, Thancred, Yda, Papalymo, anf Minfilia are the only MIA scions left. Thancred was the only of three even close to Regula's hight and Thancred should have a limp after that Knee shot.

    I did think that female Ascian looked and sounded a little like Minfilia though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisen-Zorn View Post
    Has anyone thought for a moment that Regula might actually be one of our missing Scions? I mean, obviously not Papalymo, but still.
    Given the time supposedly elapsed from Before the Fall to Heavensward (a few weeks or months, I can never remember which), that is incredibly unlikely unless said Scion was in deep cover throughout all of 2.0 and probably even earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisen-Zorn View Post
    Has anyone thought for a moment that Regula might actually be one of our missing Scions? I mean, obviously not Papalymo, but still.

    ... but I seriously doubt it.

    The only candidate is Thancred unless you buy the voice changer angle. Even then, Papalymo is out, and based on certain factors I don't think it's probable. Most importantly, after the Garlean soldier mentions "Lord van Hydrus," Alphinaud gives van Hydrus' first name, so he had to have known about Regula prior to 3.0 meaning there's no way van Hydrus could be a missing Scion.

    ... unless it's Thancred who was displaced in space-time by Y'shtola's Flow, sent back 20 years and ended up in Garlemald without his memory on top of it.
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    I assume Regula will be warped (and become a Kefka like character), killing the emperor, disturb the warring triad, is confronted by Lucia (Celes) who is knocked back but saved by Yugiri (Shadow) and then we go to 4.0
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