Something need to be done about BAD DPS.

[Asmodai]

While your statement is true in the worse case scenario. This particular instance you're trying to pass off as common simply is not. Communication and an effort into reaching an understanding is never wrong - even if the individual winds up being uncooperative. You simply move on. (And kick the individual if necessary.)

At no point should it be given as an excuse for complete change in demeanor to just offhandedly reject every person who preforms poorly. Some are genuinely struggling and would benefit the group greatly for the extra help and attention.
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Most people who perform poorly are just poor players and they always will be. There is no point in wasting time on them, give them a few chances tell them you are dropping them because they are poor players and move on. The only time you will have a chance to improve someone is if they are new. No point in wasting time.

[Jim_Berry]

I'll admit, though... Coming from Final Fantasy XI (as a WHM and COR) and DC Universe (as a Sorcery healer), being a DPS is enjoyable yet stressful. I used to believe tanks and healers had it bad, but a fight cannot be cleared effectively without us DPS.

[Assirra]

I'll admit, though... Coming from Final Fantasy XI (as a WHM and COR) and DC Universe (as a Sorcery healer), being a DPS is enjoyable yet stressful. I used to believe tanks and healers had it bad, but a fight cannot be cleared effectively without us DPS.

Well about time DPS role is getting a bit more important. The fact that 1 good dps and a tank/healer combo can carry you through a lot of content is a bit silly.

[dekal]

I think that with the new content, DPS performance is more noticeable now. Before 1 or may be 2 would be able to to be carried and get achievements and/or loots, but in the present everybody must cooperate. Even now some content /A4/ we have healers check. ( I'm not talking about high end content/ raids / where every single player must play his/her role).

[Xairos]

We should condense the message we want to send, as a collective, about this Expansion. It seems that a huge pressure has been placed on overall DPS (not just from DPS roles) for this expansion. I mean, I favor mechanics in fights, but in that I know that once your damage and HP increases players will just ignore those mechanics in the future. DPS checks age a bit better than pure mechanics (using CT and first coil as examples).

[Sapphic]

My only thing with the strict DPS checks is that it is putting more of the fight on the level of gear and less about mechanics. Just look at SCoB pre echo for mechanic heavy fights. Mayhaps they went this way to prevent crafted gear from bypassing the gearing progression path, or due to them having to nerf mechanics in SCoB + echo for when it went DF.But due to a story mode of Alex, I cant see any reason to nerf and echo savage. Especially if they add other ways to get upgrade item for ecoterrorist tome gear.

Due to being heavily gear reliant to meet the DPS checks, it will become easier faster through gear.

I miss the turn 7 type fights where you could still wipe big time no matter how over geared you where for it (pre echo/nerf).

A1S is pretty much just a DPS check with minimal mechanics. A2S is another heavy DPS check, A3S is just DPS check after DPS check.

Yes there needs to be DPS checks, but there also needs to be interesting mechanics to handle as well. As the bosses for Alex Savage seem lazily designed.

[Colt47]

Well, the test I often do in a party that seems to be wiping on Alexander sometimes is to avoid over optimizing my damage output on my paladin for one round of the boss fight. If the change in dps from me not switching to sword stance in a single phase is enough to cuase the party to not be able to get past that phase, then the DPS aren't pushing hard enough and there's no point to trying to tank a for a group that is basically dragging it's feet.

I would never do this in an extreme fight, but given how easy it is to get eased into 170-180 gear right now before even stepping foot into Alexander normal, something is horribly wrong if a group has to struggle on phase 3 of the Living Liquid boss due to damage output.

-----More thoughts----

Honestly, part of the problem with low DPS is that a lot of people who run into a low dps character are on a time table. They expect a dungeon / raid to be finished within a specific amount of time, so they leave and it generates a lot of animosity.

[Mclyde]

What could be cool, is that all those dps check failure don't be synonyme of wipe. If one or two dps can't reach the right burst to sucessfully pass one phase, it should become harder regarding mechanics or healing or something... but not leading to an ineluctable wipe.

[loreleidiangelo]

What could be cool, is that all those dps check failure don't be synonyme of wipe. If one or two dps can't reach the right burst to sucessfully pass one phase, it should become harder regarding mechanics or healing or something... but not leading to an ineluctable wipe.

Yeah, heals, carry dat weight.

[Assirra]

What could be cool, is that all those dps check failure don't be synonyme of wipe. If one or two dps can't reach the right burst to sucessfully pass one phase, it should become harder regarding mechanics or healing or something... but not leading to an ineluctable wipe.

Then once again you force the healers to carry your bad DPS.

That is exactly what they wanted to get away from with all the DPS checks.