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  1. #101
    Player
    Kayote's Avatar
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    Kayo Lireaux
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    Famfrit
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Quick Knock is Superior line up correctly its the same damage and costs less TP.
    True but its just plain DPS while the others come with other perks. Then there is the range (8y vs 25) and the fact its a cone I cant even aim with which means there is a good chance ill miss a few id otherwise hit. All to save 20TP? /shrug

    Not worth it IMO.

    Doesnt look as cool either :P
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  2. #102
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    Kopuno's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Rhizzae Cathedral
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JammerSidewinder View Post
    What is wrong with Abyssal Drain? It doesn't see use in single target as an aoe, but on aoe pulls it's really good. Blood Price + Bloodbath + Dark Arts every other Abyssal Drain and you heal yourself right up easily with all that aoe.
    Yeah I was going to say... That's my favorite mass pull, aggro holder. I spam that shit religiously. It's great!
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  3. #103
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayote View Post
    True but its just plain DPS while the others come with other perks. Then there is the range (8y vs 25) and the fact its a cone I cant even aim with which means there is a good chance ill miss a few id otherwise hit. All to save 20TP? /shrug

    Not worth it IMO.

    Doesnt look as cool either :P
    Exactly what i was saying about distance.
    Quick Knock does not always hit all targets and in aoe ground attack situations Wide Volley can still be used while avoiding getting hit.
    The whole thing about tp cost is not relevant if you know how to manage your tp.
    Anyhow this thread was not made with the idea of people bickering, i know it's the se forum and all and that is what people do...
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  4. #104
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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Alexander Dragonfang
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    All Specialist skills from crafting.

    Utterly useless/not needed at all.
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  5. #105
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    Giantbane's Avatar
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by JammerSidewinder View Post
    What is wrong with Abyssal Drain? It doesn't see use in single target as an aoe, but on aoe pulls it's really good. Blood Price + Bloodbath + Dark Arts every other Abyssal Drain and you heal yourself right up easily with all that aoe.
    Mostly because it's redundant. Unleash and Abyssal Drain mostly serve the same purpose. Not a whole lot of reason for both to exist.
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  6. #106
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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Mostly because it's redundant. Unleash and Abyssal Drain mostly serve the same purpose. Not a whole lot of reason for both to exist.
    I agree with this, although I'd rather keep Abyssal and get rid of Unleashed, or at least give Unleashed a separate additional effect like a slow debuff or something to give it more of a point.
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  7. #107
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    TheFatHousecat's Avatar
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    Character
    Deepening Shadow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Seriously? Not a single person is going to call out OP for clearly having an awful rotation and playing BLM wrong?
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  8. #108
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Character
    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Dissipation.
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  9. #109
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Sneak attack and the useless trait that goes with it, TA shares a cooldown with it, please have some design foresight.
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  10. #110
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    Marcu18's Avatar
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    Yusei Max
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Eye for an eye, dissipation, deployment tactics, sustain, miasma 2 lol!!!
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