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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    I was talking about WoD, the WoW expansion, not HW the XIV expansion. I think you just read one thing and thought another because you even use the acronym WoD in your post to describe HW lol.
    Well...not everyone knows WoW terms...I also thought WoD myself after reading a bit more.
    I didn't even know WoW has another expansion.

    I think the game is just running thin. Never played it, but what more can you really do on a game that's been out sooooooooooooooooooooooo long?
    Content probably sucks butt now, they ran out of story and other stuff. I'm not sure if WoW will last another 10 years
    unless they give you Occulus thing lol. Things do run it's course. It happens. I care about FF more and hope it flourishes
    and starts to get brave enough to do more exciting things than a reskin of 2.0. We will see in time.
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    Last edited by Mikhaill; 08-06-2015 at 11:34 PM.

  2. #112
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    Nikki Seven
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    You act as if content gating is the only reason someone unsubscribes from a game. If this were the case, why are you here? Why hasn't FFXIV lost half of its base? There isn't one single reason why this is happening to WoW. It's a combination of things, with content gating being very far on the list and I would imagine the biggest factor being the game is old, the new content is uninteresting and a rehash of old concepts with different paint. That and like Lemmings, when people leave, others follow. In general, it's easy to bandwagon, it's harder to think for ones self.
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  3. #113
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    WoW is losing subs because it's basically been doing the same thing for 10 years. And Warlords of Draenor was a recognized failure. Not because of gating content, but because of lack of content, rehashed content and the fact that most of the expansion centered around the garrison, which turned the game into a chore. FFXIV is doing fine.
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  4. #114
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Blizzard believed that they could hold off releasing content for 6-7 months and people would give in because it is WoW and people will stay regardless. A time ago that was true, but now it is starting to bite them in the ass, especially since people are getting fed up and have options for other MMO's like FFXIV. While people may sometimes criticize the content SE releases, at least they are consistent, even releasing new jobs not even in an expansion pack. WoW could really learn from this.

    Or they can drop it, make Warcraft 4, and start developing World of Starcraft. One can only dream. @_@
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  5. #115
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    Eureka Evergarden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    Not even close. WoW is and will always be more casual friendly than XIV.
    Lmao. Near free instantaneous transportation to any zone you want, easily obtainable flying that you acquire mostly through questing and minimal exploration, dungeon finder available from launch, everything available (except for desynthesis I guess) on one character not requiring multiple regrinds of rep/gold etc and easy-leveling bonuses just for doing something else on the same character, linear questing with easily identifiable markers, easy, casual raiding introduced for people planned and implemented from the first major patch of the game, powerful, mildly time sensitive gear obtainable by all players, and all reputation/achievement grinds are optional.

    I guess if you consider selfie taking the ultimate in casual accessibility then sure.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    While people may sometimes criticize the content SE releases, at least they are consistent, even releasing new jobs not even in an expansion pack. WoW could really learn from this.
    Yoshida said that they don't bring new jobs outside of an expansion anymore. Too much stress on the devs.
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  7. #117
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    People are leaving WoW because they are bored. They have a bad development cycles which is slow to release new content. They keep rehashing the same old thing without trying anything new and now it looks like they are copying ideas from FFXIV. There is a tale of caution here for FFXIV; players want fresh new things, not the same old routine all the time. Content needs to be new and inventive. You did good with 2.XX and introduction things in the cycle like Golden Saucer, Housing, Hunts, and so on but you have to stick with it. I think the first big step with 3.0 is find something useful for flying mounts other than travel.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 08-07-2015 at 02:40 AM.

  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Lmao. Near free instantaneous transportation to any zone you want, easily obtainable flying that you acquire mostly through questing and minimal exploration, dungeon finder available from launch, everything available (except for desynthesis I guess) on one character not requiring multiple regrinds of rep/gold etc and easy-leveling bonuses just for doing something else on the same character, linear questing with easily identifiable markers, easy, casual raiding introduced for people planned and implemented from the first major patch of the game, powerful, mildly time sensitive gear obtainable by all players, and all reputation/achievement grinds are optional.
    You do realize that with the exception of instant teleport ( hearthstones) and dow classes on one character (all crafter gathered can be on 1 toon) you just described WoW. No questing for flight in WoW either just walk over to flight master and hand over the gold. I also might add gearing up is way easier in WoW than here also as well as progression in general.
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    Last edited by Tuathaa; 08-07-2015 at 04:27 AM.

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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    You do realize that with the exception of instant teleport ( hearthstones) and dow classes on one character (all crafter gathered can be on 1 toon) you just described WoW. No questing for flight in WoW either. I also might add gearing up is way easier in WoW than here also.
    IIRC, to fly in Draenor you have to have Loremaster (quest related achievement) find all treasure chests or something of the sort, and get exalted in quite a few factions. Although that's a pain the ass, hope they don't go that route with Legion. =l
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    That..sounds familiar.


    Sounds like you friend barely even played the game if he/she gave those reasons lol! The only true reason out of these is the ''stopped feeling like Warcraft''
    Gating and caps, or as they liked to call them there ''the infernal dailies'' were a big issue for many.
    Actually, they all played for upwards of five years, but please, keep on making assumptions about people you don't know.
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