Jeebus the red script grind is real.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

Another question for those in the know. Maybe this is better for another forum.

My rotation is pretty basic. I use (Discerning Eye then Methodical Appraisal) x3 for red script items. That's usually enough to get 470 for two gather attempts. Sometimes I get less then 470. Anyone know why? I assumed it was just me messing up my rotation (forgetting to use DE or using MA one too many times).

Can the "one gathering attempt" fail from MA? I have about 90% for normal gathering attempts.

Ya I don't know I wouldn't consider 2 hours a day that grindy for MMO. All I can say is you dont actually have to cap each week. I usually only cap gather scrips as I dont have time for crafter ones. Once I'm done with gather scips ill work on crafter ones. I take comfort in knowing I wont run out of stuff to do any time soon.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Ya I don't know I wouldn't consider 2 hours a day that grindy for MMO. All I can say is you dont actually have to cap each week. I usually only cap gather scrips as I dont have time for crafter ones. Once I'm done with gather scips ill work on crafter ones. I take comfort in knowing I wont run out of stuff to do any time soon.

That's two hours a day just for gathering and only if I leveled two gatherers to 60. I want to cap on esos and alex nm tokens too. That maybe takes a total of 8 hours a week if I'm really unlucky. Most of the time its probably a lot less then that. I knock out my experts and alex normals in no time thanks to my fc.

The amount of time I need to put into gathering (lets not forget crafting) dwarfs the other parts of this game. Isn't the red script cap there so people like me don't get left behind (and I play a lot compared to most)?

[DreameR7g]

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Yup. Now just think how much further you'd be left behind if the cap WASN'T there? The potential of a hardcore player (considering the sheer amount of time they are willing to invest in the game) is nearly limitless.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Yup. Now just think how much further you'd be left behind if the cap WASN'T there? The potential of a hardcore player (considering the sheer amount of time they are willing to invest in the game) is nearly limitless.

The cap doesn't bother me tbh. It's the 8 scripts per turn in.

[DreameR7g]

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Conceded but then again, the 8 red scrip turn in per item isn't that bad. Great example is if you farm adamantite ore alone with the proper gear, you could get 2 (potentially 3 if your rng is good with the optimal rotation) which leads to 16 red scrips a half hour, 32 an hour. Translates to 14 hours altogether (and not of sheer effort mind you, only takes about a minute or two to gather the ACTUAL material) in 7 days. If you pace yourself, where its equally spread out within that week (2 hours within a 24 hour day, not accounting for work and other such activities you plan to do), the effort isn't much.

[Rin_Kuroi]

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Compared to capping esos and capping alex nm tokens its a huge amount of effort. It takes about twice the amount of effort even with the advantage of having two 60 gathering classes. And! And that's only so I can get myself the next tier for gear. This gear is only going to be used to meet the cap quicker for the coming weeks and months. No profit. I still want a sky blue chocobo

[DreameR7g]

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Oh of course. If you add in other such tasks as capping esoterics and capping alex NM tokens, your free time is going to be more taken up and thus more effort. That's a given. Capping esoterics in one day is especially tasking because of the repeat of 2 dungeons which gives a significant amount.

However, I would hypothesize that esoterics aren't meant to be capped in one day, same with capping alex NM tokens and scrips. I merely have to point out to the weekly reset of tomes/scrip/raid rewards. That also depends on if you are the type of player who cares about capping everything in a week, which I would then label you as a hardcore player.